User talk:Nash101

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Mistertrouble189 (talk) 14:37, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Query
Hi, I typed out a response on my phone but it didn't save when I clicked submit so I will try again when I am home on my computer. Thanks for understanding --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 00:53, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Hi Nash. Regarding Chat - not many people use it when the TV Series is on hiatus (speaking from experience - I may be wrong but I don't use Chat that often). As for the classification of a character's status, I believe there was a wiki-wide discussion somewhere. To sum it up, we use "unknown" if a character was last seen alive, but we don't know what happened to them as the story moved forward. For example, we don't know what happened to Sofia and Juan as they traveled to La Paz. We don't know what happened to Jack, Vida, and Alex after the pirates story arc concluded as well, though they were last seen alive at their home base, it is best to leave them as unknown as they may have been killed later or abandoned their safe refuge. For Daniel, the show has led us to believe that he died in 2x07, but we are not entirely sure, especially as the producers said we may see him again, leaving him with an unknown status (though I believe he is dead). I saw your changes to the FTWD Characters page and made some changes.

To simplify things, we know that the wedding party was locked in the ballroom with zombies (Charles, soon to be Jessica) inside, and are presumed dead as the outbreak was overcoming Rosarito as the same time (no signal to reach emergency services, the number of dead guests and hotel staff seen in 2x10 etc). Additionally, several sources/articles have stated that people died in the ballroom because of Elena's actions - hence her guilt plus we saw blood and signs of chaos - toppled chairs and tables - in the ballroom in 2x10 This is why we have Mrs. Diaz listed as dead - plus she wasn't among the survivors in 2x11. For Charles - he is listed as dead because it is wiki precedent to list someone as dead if they were killed or mortally wounded - despite possibility of reanimating. While we last saw him as a zombie, he would eventually have to be killed by the survivors - plus he wasn't stored away like the injured Jessica was. Sorry if I ended up undoing some of the "other" edits you were making. --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 01:45, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Nash, I unlocked Template:FTWDCharacters for you. As for Mother Sofia, I see that you added her already to the characters page - nice job. We will generally use names given by actors/actresses if their character name was a generic one (like Bud - "Savior", Edward - "Blond Wolf", Rocky Knath - Drama Teacher, TV Eric's last name was revealed by him to be Raleigh, etc.) whereas some names were revealed in interviews (like Owen the Alpha Wolf) or names were used in the script but never made it on screen or from cut lines (like Chloe, a prison resident from Season 4 or Gabe the Savior from "Not Tomorrow Yet") and so on. Those are best source for names, next to AMC credits. As for that lady you pointed out - I have added her to the background survivors page, thanks for the heads up. --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 20:50, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey Nash, I saw your changes to the template and all looks good, I locked it back up. Regarding the old lady, I didn't even know she existed until the promo images were released! I love the promo images, they can reveal so much. As for consistency regarding characters, I will admit the show has done a lot better keeping characters, both minor and background, consistent/recurring, especially with the prison in season 4 and Alexandria in seasons 5 and 6, though Woodbury in season 3 was a disaster with 120+ extras to represent the 50 or so unnamed background townspeople, haha. So far so good with La Colonia and the Rosarito hotel group, the background cast appears to be consistent and they even used some of the wedding guests from the flashback as members of the group (at least 3 of them from what I can tell). Anyway, regarding Tobias, since he was confirmed to be alive by one of the show's producers, I think it would be best to leave him as alive until further notice. I would use the source as a footnote for that bit under "trivia". Perhaps when it is closer to season 3, we can have another discussion regarding Tobias as he may have dropped off the radar of the producers by then. But hopefully not, as I'm still waiting for him to show up, along with Alex, Jack, and Vida. The short synopsis for 2x13 states that Madison is surprised by someone she recognizes among the hotel refugees, but I think I was spoiled by the synopses for 2x14 and 2x15. If you want to know who it is, I'm sure you can do some digging and find out. I think right now the show needs to bring everyone back together somehow before we start reuniting with others, IMO. Finally, regarding the FTWD Characters page, the wiki community prefers to group people by family, especially if there is more than one character (ie. Cynthia and Hector Ramirez). I do not prefer this style of grouping, as it creates a lot of unnecessary sections on the page. I would suggest creating a discussion on the talk page, I will leave my thoughts if you'd like. I think there is a wiki style guide somewhere... I'll try to see if I can find it (it might be buried in the forums, I remember a time the community got together and wrote one). --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 00:34, September 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the characters page looks much better now! With all the unnecessary family grouping, it looked really cluttered and poor. New format is better in my opinion, especially with so many minor characters, they don't need their own family section. As for combining the unnamed/unseen & background survivors page, I would say no. Reason being is that the unnamed/unseen page, it's a secondary page for all the credited characters who never got a name (like Lab Coat, Neighbors 1-3, ICU Doctor, Driver, Woman, etc.) as well as all of the mentioned names from dialogue (Maria Santos, Bill, Dominic Fratto, etc). The background survivors page is simply all those extras we see in the background or at crowd scenes or who aren't notable enough to get their own page (esp being unnamed/uncredited). It's best to keep both pages separate. In regards to the mass characters on the page, I have future plans of creating a sub page for La Colonia, since there are so many people and they are all recurring for the most part (like why I created subpages for Woodbury, Alexandria, Terminus, etc). The rest of the background people can stay on the main FTWD background page, since the majority of them only appear once. If you have any formatting ideas for the background page, I am open to suggestions! The background survifor pages are some of my biggest contributions since I made them all (thanks to LOSTpedia back in the day for sparking my interest in this haha) --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 23:24, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

Characters page
Well i suppose that proves your right. However seeing as the other admins aren't here right now. in fact i been so busy with school, and having a life i'm not sure where the others are. but I'd talk to them about it as well. Why change something this wikia has had for years makes no sense, it makes look way cleaner, and more professional  in my opinion Thanks for pointing that out for me Naruto Uzumaki (talk) 01:33, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

no the family groups make things way lets messy Naruto Uzumaki (talk) 17:49, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

RE:And that's a wrap!
I liked the finale! I thought it was good, though I questioned a few things. However, I thought it was a good enough ending to the season. Unlike a lot of other people who constantly complained about the show, I liked it. I thought the second half was better than the first. I hope we see more of the hotel next season, especially as Talking Dead said we will see Strand again (hopefully AT the hotel, and not after he leaves it. That way we can still see Ilene, Hector, and Elena). Only way I can see Strand eventually leaving is that there is some internal zombie attack after a few sick refugees die overnight, attacking and infecting others. I can see mostly everyone dying, including Ilene, and scattering, while Strand and Elena survive (Hector can perish, that's fine with me lol). I am fine with the cull of the secondary cast, as the La Colonia and hotel arcs are pretty much over. Instead of leaving everyone as unknown and to be forgotten, they killed off most of them, giving us closure with their status being dead, instead of us wondering if they'll be back (like Tobias, Alex, etc.). I was surprised at Oscar and Andrés' deaths but I guess it was to further the plot and get Madison & co out of there. Brandon and Derek deserved to die after what we've seen and how they mercilessly gunned down Chris (hated him, but felt a LITTLE bad). Glad they didn't forget about Francisco & his family. Marco & all them dying was a good way to wipe them out (though I wonder what happened to the women/kids and junkies from the supermarket - oh well not that important). As for the cast reuniting - well Nick and Luciana were captured by the militia, Ofelia was taken in by someone who seems to be with the same militia maybe, and Madison & co are not heading towards the border. So at least everyone is heading in the right direction to meet up again. Hopefully Strand (and Elena) will too somehow. I'm surprised that Daniel is coming back but I guess that is fine - I really do like him and his survival smarts. Looking forward to season 3! I've been busying screencapping extras and characters and updating pages, I'm halfway through 2x15 now. I will get a picture of Antonio once I get towards the end. As for Elias' family, it's hard to get clear/big enough photos. They are all too small or blurry so I am going to skip that, unless there is a specific photo you'd like me to try and get. I believe there is only 1 son and 1 daughter in the Suarez family. As for the characters page, let me know if you want to edit it (I think it is locked). --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 22:12, October 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * All done with the screencaps and updated my survivors page & the background survivors page. Took a long time but it's done! Yeah some people would fight for a separate section for the Suarez family which is ridiculous. That whole concept was brought up when TWD first came out, and in the Atlanta camp there were a bunch of families so they organized the characters that way. It's not necessary now as families don't necessarily mean the same last name. Look at Rick's group. Love the variety of people in it but they truly are a family. I locked the characters page to avoid everyone going nuts over it, but if you would like to edit it, let me know and I'd be happy to unlock it for you. As for contacting extras, it's a little bit more difficult with FTWD since they use a lot of the casting agencies in Mexico and they are hard to find on social media/IMDB. But I did have some luck, I contacted the wedding survivor by Ryan McClurkin and briefly spoke to him - no name but he shared some brief backstory. He may appear in Season 3 if they show the hotel so he probably doesn't want to establish a name in case they do next season for some reason (dialogue, credit etc). But I'm happy he responded. Also got in contact with the mother by Heidi Garcia and had a great talk with her, she named her character and shared some information. Lastly, I heard back from the female refugee and got some backstory tidbits, no name, and reached out to the male refugee but waiting a response. It's just finding people on Facebook and going through friend lists to see who looks like an extra on the show. Helps if their profile is public haha, like Ryan McClurkin was (plus he listed himself on IMDB so that helped). User:Bailey16 does a great job with this for the TWD extras, especially Woodbury, Terminus, and Alexandria. PS. I hope we see Ilene too lol. --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 15:57, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Request
Hey Nash, thanks for informing about the needed changes. I made all of them but let me know if I missed something. --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 23:08, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Better Photo
Hey Nash, thanks for showing me the better photo of that zombie girl! Appreciate the effort. Hope all is well with you! --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 00:38, December 19, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Update: Fear the Walking Dead
Hi! I got your messages - I'm not ignoring you, I'm just trying to finish up the 7x16 screencapping but I will get back to you shortly. I did see the pages you made, nice job :) --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 00:33, April 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * I updated the statuses of those characters on the FTWD page and added the new people to the template. As for Charles Stowe - I think he should be dead - surely his wife and friends would not let him wander the hotel as a zombie? I am going to try and find a larger, higher res photo of Strand/Elena/the two refugees as well as the Troy/Lola/brother photo. --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 02:40, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, its very confusing and poorly done in regards to continuity. It seems that the people did indeed escape after a while, though I'm gonna go with that a bunch of people were killed, we did see some blood spatter on the table or something. It seems that the Oscar & co were able to escape and flee with their immediate family to safety as the supposed carnage continued in the ballroom that potentially spilled to the rest of the hotel (mind you, all of Rosarito was experiencing an emergency at this time as seen when Hector couldn't call the authorities). We can rightfully assume that many of the people from the wedding party eventually ran into bloodshed and chaos as the city fell and as we saw, many zombies were in the hotel in the rooms and floors, so people in the hotel must have died or been attacked. It could be argued that Mrs. Diaz could be unknown, but I would go along with dead since no one mentioned her, you'd think they'd mention that their mother escaped or is somewhere out there but it was so minor and she appeared briefly so that would never be a part of the script or storyline. Among the walkers on the pier are some people in formal attire aka wedding guests (I distinctly remember a female zombie in a dress and get this - high heels lol) so some wedding folks did die, which helps me believe that people died in that ballroom. But I suppose that you're right, those walkers are still "alive" in a sense they're still zombies floating/whatever. Also, for Charles, I would think they would make an attempt to put him down instead of let him roam around - he's Ilene's husband. But I suppose you are right, we could change Charles and Mrs. Diaz to undead and unknown, respectively, unless we can get Andres and Oscar on Twitter to ask them what they think happened. If you do make that edit, please write out something in the appropriate section on what would have happened to them and maybe a note on the talk page. I personally believe they are both dead. But yeah, that whole part of the story line had some holes in it. At least we'll see the hotel again next season - I hope we see Ilene again. I feel that she'll eventually commit suicide and start an internal zombie outbreak, she's losing it. And it would help push Strand's story further by getting him out of the hotel (hopefully Elena and Hector join him and not end up "unknown". --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 22:29, April 7, 2017 (UTC)