Glegakis wrote:
SethMacMillan wrote:
Granted they did step over that amendment, and they did so because fellow human's rights have been trampled on by religious laws.
Secondly, relating same-sex marriage to incest and polagmy is hardly a powerful argument.
Thirdly, the United States is not a "godly" country. It was a country founded on the principles of freedom and equality for all.
Finally, "A civilization without a bible based morality will eventally destroy itself form within."? Please explain to me why Rome fell after adopting the Christian ways. A country doesn't need morality to exist as many exist without morality and are succeeding well.
So Seth did you learn history on the back of a Cracker Jack box? Rome fell because of greed, corruption and hedonism. If they had practiced Christian values as taught by Jesus, they never would have collapsed. I'm curious what "Christian ways" you're talking about? Certainly not the teachings of Jesus from the New Testament.
United States was founded on Judeo-Christian values derived from the Bible. Marriage is a sacrament from God and was exclusively designed for one man and one woman to consummate their bond and be fruitful and multiply. Two people of the same sex just engage in fruitless, self-serving physical pleasure. It doesn't matter what Anthony Kennedy thinks, marriage is only legitimate if it's between one man and one woman.
You dismissed my polygamy example but you never explained your rationale. if a man can marry a man, why is it illegal for a man to marry two women or, for that matter, two men? If it's only about legal rights like many homosexuals say, then what was wrong with Civil Unions or Domestic Partnerships with the same visitation and inheritance rights? It was about sticking it to people with traditional values, namely Christians, Muslims and Jews that know that marriage is defined in only one way.
The normalization of pedophilia is coming next, wait and see.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/21/heres-why-the-progressive-left-keeps-sticking-up-for-pedophiles/
A sacrament of God written by man, interpretted by man, translated over and over by man and printed by man. The country may have been FOUNDED on such values but times changed. We don't still use laws from Ancient times, why should we listen to a book that has been purposefully altered over the years in the varying forms just because of devoted love. Traditional values work in a traditional society, the United States is no longer traditional.
To ask in return, why in the world should people of specific beliefs be given exclusive rights to an institution that's existed for millenia while others (who show the exact same love with the only difference coming down to not being able to physically procreate with one another) can't? Discrimination exists in many forms and ignorance is the curtain by which it hides. I dismissed polygamy because two people loving each other [regardless of gender] is not the same as an orgy, threeway or brothel.
Please explain to me how we humans are put on this planet with specific missions to coninue on in generations, as I'm confident in say that if the entire next generation stop procreating there'd still be enough people to keep the human population going.
Not everything you read is true nor good. Any scripture that emphasizes hate is one that the all loving god of said scripture has left. Love thy neighbor, and allowing two people to marry [again, regardless of gender] has literally no effect on you or your way of life. The reason America has lost its morals is not from accepting homosexuality, it's from the people that spread hate. The ones that go around barring same-sex couples from services solely because they're same-sex couples. The people going around yelling out profanities solely because people are homosexual. Those are the people who took away the morality in America, as the moment we do not give everyone equal opportunity and rights is the moment the Constitution is failing those people. You don't hear homosexual people complaining of the straight agenda wanting to brush them under the rug and act as though they're less than human.
Finally, please explain to me how God, an all mighty, all powerful, all knowing being that created the infinite universe would take time out of his [likely very busy] schedule to give a moments care about two people marrying. How a being with such power would even consider each individual on this planet of 7+ billion.
Now I'm done, as you and I will never reach a compromise without heated words [more so than already] being exchanged.