• You hate Glen Mazzara, you want to insult him and his decisions. Here is the place to do that! Come beat Mazzara everyone!

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    • THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS GRAVELORD!!!!!

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    • If anything, insult all of the writters for Season 3. He didn't do all of the shatty stuff.

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    • I want to go all Issue 33 on that bastard, just because he cut it from the show. And then bite of his fingers, because he killed Merle too early. Then tie him to a chair with only grease-coated pliers to free himself; and if he isn't free within 42 minutes, he'll be fed to Frank Darabont.

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    • Bloxxasourus wrote:
      If anything, insult all of the writters for Season 3. He didn't do all of the shatty stuff.

      His genius plans for the show caused them to happen. He is responsible for ruining one of the greatest comic book arcs ever.

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    • they should make a "kick the Marrazza" game.

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    • Gravelord wrote:
      Bloxxasourus wrote:
      If anything, insult all of the writters for Season 3. He didn't do all of the shatty stuff.
      His genius plans for the show caused them to happen. He is responsible for ruining one of the greatest comic book arcs ever.

      Agreed. I do think this thread will be really fun, though.

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    • Mazzara.... The name alone ignites rage.

      Post-16090-Angry-man-irrationally-destroy-MDLZ
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    • GhostWolf716 wrote:
      Mazzara.... The name alone ignites rage.
      Post-16090-Angry-man-irrationally-destroy-MDLZ

      You seem quite angry Brent

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    • He destroyed the prison arc. The white haired monster needs to be burnt alive. 

      1. BringDarabontBack
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    • Deadlydark wrote: they should make a "kick the Marrazza" game.

      Anyone agree?

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    • Gravelord wrote:
      He destroyed the prison arc. The white haired monster needs to be burnt alive. 
      1. BringDarabontBack

      Frank won't want to come back. He won't get his budget back.

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    • Bloxxasourus wrote:
      Gravelord wrote:
      He destroyed the prison arc. The white haired monster needs to be burnt alive. 
      1. BringDarabontBack
      Frank won't want to come back. He won't get his budget back.

      Let us dream, Bloxx. Let us dream.

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    • GhostWolf716 wrote:
      Bloxxasourus wrote:
      Gravelord wrote:
      He destroyed the prison arc. The white haired monster needs to be burnt alive. 
      1. BringDarabontBack
      Frank won't want to come back. He won't get his budget back.
      Let us dream, Bloxx. Let us dream.

      No dreaming for you. 

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    • He killed my brotha, T-Dog too early as well as everyone else in Season except Lori. He also screwed over a majority of the Prison Arc.

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    • You can go back and read the Prison Arc. 

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    • Bloxxasourus wrote: You can go back and read the Prison Arc. 

      It didn't have to be actually the same. He just didn't do it justice. I mean the Prison part of it he did pretty well except for the Prisoners, especially Oscar and Axel.

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    • Allen. Andrea. Dale. Milton. TDog. Making Daryl an insanely shitty character. Not fixing Andrea.


      total robbery, I feel violated


      Mazarra...

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    • Andrea was unfixable. That was Frank's fault.

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    • I think now that Gimple has cleaned up Mazzara mess the show should improve and only get better

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    • I like him :D

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    • Bloxxasourus wrote:
      Andrea was unfixable. That was Frank's fault.

      Pretty much. Since the CDC, her character was doomed from the start. 

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    • Tropicdude18 wrote:
      Bloxxasourus wrote:
      Andrea was unfixable. That was Frank's fault.
      Pretty much. Since the CDC, her character was doomed from the start. 


      Yep, that damn suicide story. I knew she would be terrible with the age change to be honest. Extreme age change is usually bad news.

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    • GhostWolf716 wrote:
      Tropicdude18 wrote:
      Bloxxasourus wrote:
      Andrea was unfixable. That was Frank's fault.
      Pretty much. Since the CDC, her character was doomed from the start. 

      Yep, that damn suicide story. I knew she would be terrible with the age change to be honest. Extreme age change is usually bad news.

      How hard could it be to find an actress in her mid 20s? -_-

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    • Bloxxasourus wrote:
      GhostWolf716 wrote:
      Tropicdude18 wrote:
      Bloxxasourus wrote:
      Andrea was unfixable. That was Frank's fault.
      Pretty much. Since the CDC, her character was doomed from the start. 

      Yep, that damn suicide story. I knew she would be terrible with the age change to be honest. Extreme age change is usually bad news.
      How hard could it be to find an actress in her mid 20s? -_-

      D:

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    • Andrea was retarded in season 2 most of all. How hard would it be for like 4 strong men to take out one mindless walker?

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    • Yes, but she came back from feeling suicidal to wanting to live. That was what was so great to watch throughout season 2 and the beginning of Season 3. In season 2, she learned to defend herself and she saw she was a good shot and could help protect the group. But at the start of S3, after she got separated from the group, she was telling Michonne to just leave her there to die. But then they get to Woodbury, and Andrea decides there is something worth living for. 

      And then unfortunately, terrible writing followed. She got sucked into a bad relationship with the Governor, turned a blind eye to all the bad stuff he was doing, and waited too long to get away from him. That's not really her fault; the writers (Glenn) were intentionally controlling her character and making her seem stupid. Any real woman would have realized she would have been better off at the prison.


      Mazzara not only ruined the last half of season 3, he ruined Andrea's story arc as well, because she was on her way to becoming a strong character. But I think of all characters, Andrea was the most realistic and human-like. That's kind of what life is all about, right? We struggle for so long, and then we die. The end.

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    • I went to his house last night and now he is dead

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    • KatieTheAndreaFan wrote: I want to go all Issue 33 on that bastard, just because he cut it from the show. And then bite of his fingers, because he killed Merle too early. Then tie him to a chair with only grease-coated pliers to free himself; and if he isn't free within 42 minutes, he'll be fed to Frank Darabont.

      I fully agree with this statement

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    • i didnt mind Mazzara for a while, but once he fucked over Andrea's character, and ruined the prison arc, fuck him.

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    • There's only one thing that's worse than Mazzara's decisions: It's his smile.

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    • gimples a lot better

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    • Dragging season 2 until it almost killed the show was acceptable. But when you water down the prison arc until it looks nothing like the origonal is treacherous to the source material.

      SPOLIERS BELOW

      I approve of breaking away from the source material, but i mean come on. the comic prison arc was dark and twisted and was filled with tradgegy and loss. I mean who was lost in the  tv's prison arc. The prisoners, T-Dog,Merele, Hershel, and Lori. The rest where unnamed or unimportant. Compare that to the comics; Billy,Hershel (again) Allen,Lori, Judith, Carol, Tyreese, and others I'm probably forgeting.  On top of that, We had the suicide pact, Allen and Dale's amputations, Rick losing his hand, Michone being raped (Sorry Maggie, but this was worse than just being forced to strip and shoved into a table), the govener's horrifying mutalation, and more. I know that somethings are not  suitable for tv, but you didn't even try Mazzara! Don't get me wrong, Season 3 was not bad, but it tried to hard to stray from the source material and failed, it ended up becoming too predictable in places and too random in others.

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    • Let's see - watering down the Governor's storyline, adding pointless episodes, fucking up the prison storyline and drawing it out longer than it should've been, and fucking up characters like Andrea and Carl to no end. It pains me that we will never have TV Andrea make it like Comic Andrea. What a shitty show runner.

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    • Gearslover01 wrote:
      It pains me that we will never have TV Andrea make it like Comic Andrea. What a shitty show runner.

      THIS.

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    • Season 2 was mostly Darabont, and IMO was the perfect season. Season 3 just went the wrong direction on many things. And while I totally admit Andrea's story was probably the biggest loss, I think we can all agree that there were no worse decisions made then to hire all of the Woodbury extras. Every single one of them was just laughably horrible to watch.

      Seriously, anybody who wants to see true horror, rewatch the episode where Daryl and Merle fight in the pit. The extras literally are just shaking fists and yelling insensibly aggresive things and turning around to look at each other to see if they were still supposed to be angry or not. They literally had old ladies yelling for the brothers to kill each other. It was like the director just said, "alright guys, get angry! Great, now stay angry for 30 minutes straight while we shoot the scenes with the main characters."

      Meanwhile everyone forgot why they were yelling.

      And don't even get me started about Haley and her fucking bow... That whole scene was just... ugh *shutters*

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    • 146.201.135.127 wrote: Season 2 was mostly Darabont, and IMO was the perfect season. Season 3 just went the wrong direction on many things. And while I totally admit Andrea's story was probably the biggest loss, I think we can all agree that there were no worse decisions made then to hire all of the Woodbury extras. Every single one of them was just laughably horrible to watch.

      Seriously, anybody who wants to see true horror, rewatch the episode where Daryl and Merle fight in the pit. The extras literally are just shaking fists and yelling insensibly aggresive things and turning around to look at each other to see if they were still supposed to be angry or not. They literally had old ladies yelling for the brothers to kill each other. It was like the director just said, "alright guys, get angry! Great, now stay angry for 30 minutes straight while we shoot the scenes with the main characters."

      Meanwhile everyone forgot why they were yelling.

      And don't even get me started about Haley and her fucking bow... That whole scene was just... ugh *shutters*

      Season 2's issues were horrible pacing, low budget, and bad writing here and there. Season 2 part B was actually better - but Season 2 would've been so much better if we followed the comic storyline. Spend an episode or two in the Wiltshire Estates, spend another on the road, and maybe the search for Sophia and the farm would've been more bearable.

      Season 3 had great action but jumped the shark immediately following the mid-season premiere. Botched characters, filler storyline, pointless episodes, and water downed the actual prison/woodbury storyline.

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    • Mazzara was alright until episode 7,everything went downhill from there

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    • Gearslover01 wrote:

      Season 3 had great action but jumped the shark immediately following the mid-season premiere. Botched characters, filler storyline, pointless episodes, and water downed the actual prison/woodbury storyline.

      Yea, I mean Rick's insanity can only be interesting for an episode. the whole ghost Lori thing was overdone. Season 3A was, imo, great. 3B, you could have skipped every episode except the first one and the Last 2 and not notice the diffrence.

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    • Edgeofnight wrote:

      Gearslover01 wrote:

      Season 3 had great action but jumped the shark immediately following the mid-season premiere. Botched characters, filler storyline, pointless episodes, and water downed the actual prison/woodbury storyline.

      Yea, I mean Rick's insanity can only be interesting for an episode. the whole ghost Lori thing was overdone. Season 3A was, imo, great. 3B, you could have skipped every episode except the first one and the Last 2 and not notice the diffrence.

      Wow - you're right. Of course you would miss out on Clear (the best episode of the season and one of the best of the series).

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    • Gearslover01 wrote:

      Edgeofnight wrote:

      Gearslover01 wrote:

      Season 3 had great action but jumped the shark immediately following the mid-season premiere. Botched characters, filler storyline, pointless episodes, and water downed the actual prison/woodbury storyline.

      Yea, I mean Rick's insanity can only be interesting for an episode. the whole ghost Lori thing was overdone. Season 3A was, imo, great. 3B, you could have skipped every episode except the first one and the Last 2 and not notice the diffrence.

      Wow - you're right. Of course you would miss out on Clear (the best episode of the season and one of the best of the series).

      Yea it was good, but beyond showing us that Morgan was alive and giving the group some new weapons, it did little to advance the plot. yea it developed Michone, but the whole "I talk to my dead boyfriend' thing hasn't been brought up since.

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    • Edgeofnight wrote:

      Gearslover01 wrote:

      Edgeofnight wrote:

      Gearslover01 wrote:

      Season 3 had great action but jumped the shark immediately following the mid-season premiere. Botched characters, filler storyline, pointless episodes, and water downed the actual prison/woodbury storyline.

      Yea, I mean Rick's insanity can only be interesting for an episode. the whole ghost Lori thing was overdone. Season 3A was, imo, great. 3B, you could have skipped every episode except the first one and the Last 2 and not notice the diffrence.

      Wow - you're right. Of course you would miss out on Clear (the best episode of the season and one of the best of the series).

      Yea it was good, but beyond showing us that Morgan was alive and giving the group some new weapons, it did little to advance the plot. yea it developed Michone, but the whole "I talk to my dead boyfriend' thing hasn't been brought up since.

      Didn't you see After? She was talking to Mike (she does it way more in the comics - it would've been interesting to see it more in the show but that didn't happen)

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    • Didn't you see After? She was talking to Mike (she does it way more in the comics - it would've been interesting to see it more in the show but that didn't happen)

      I did. Missed that however. I'll have to watch the episode again. Even so, that could have been developed in After or Claimed just as easliy. Again, Clear was a cool, well written, and intersting episode, but it did little to advance the plot or develop the characters (Beyond Morgan's massive devlopment)

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    • Let's face it... Andrea was toast when she pulled her gun on rick six billion times in the first season. Then when she shot Daryl, even Daryl-haters hated Andrea by then, if not already. Her hate klan quadrupled in season 3 (just fucking shoot him, Andrea!)

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    • There is a term Mazzara does not have in his brain (as many other people do too, but when a showrunner doesnt have it its much worse)... its called "Character development", the little he tried to apply on season 3 was awful, which shows he does not have the slightest idea of what it is.

      Its pretty obvious he had the mindset so many other idiots have... "CHARACTER DEATHS EVERYWHERE! I DIDNT EVEN CARE FOR THAT CHARACTER BUT SOMEONE DIED! AWESOMEEEEEEEEEE" (then continues to drool while watching TV on a blank channel)

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    • Gearslover01 wrote:
      Let's see - watering down the Governor's storyline, adding pointless episodes, fucking up the prison storyline and drawing it out longer than it should've been, and fucking up characters like Andrea and Carl to no end. It pains me that we will never have TV Andrea make it like Comic Andrea. What a shitty show runner.

      IN HIS DEFENSE, it was partially AMC's fault for ordering too many episodes.

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    • Coming here in 2018, Mazzara was great. The way Andrea was written instead of the comic version of her was just quality. The final battle was great.

      And now serious: Mazzara just knew he ruined everything so just decided to make his final episode a horrible episode. The battle was shit, Andrea's character was shit and they killed her off...why did he do all of that.

      Oh and can't stand his face, looks like a face of an asshole

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    • All he did was kill off enjoyable characters like a fucking serial killer (or ruin them) and he absolutely raped the prison arc, which made me sad because I really liked it in the comics.

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    • Daily reminder that Mazzara was better than Pimple

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    • A Blackguard wrote:
      All he did was kill off enjoyable characters like a fucking serial killer (or ruin them) and he absolutely raped the prison arc, which made me sad because I really liked it in the comics.

      Agree with everything you just said.

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    • Daily reminder that Mazzara was better than current Kirkman

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    • I Have No Tommy and I Must Scream wrote:
      Daily reminder that Mazzara was better than current Kirkman

      Nathan sized OOF

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    • A Blackguard wrote:
      All he did was kill off enjoyable characters like a fucking serial killer (or ruin them) and he absolutely raped the prison arc, which made me sad because I really liked it in the comics.

      this

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