• Hipster Mikey here! With the season 6 trailer released, the time for speculation has begun. As we have seen by the trailer, Ron will play a pretty big role. Ron is seen having tension with Carl (a possible Enid love triangle in the works) and stating that he believes that Rick is dangerous. Carl has yet to have a moment on par with the killing of Ben, and is far lamer than his comic counterpart. For future story arcs he will need to be an anti-hero, so it is possible that he could get into a fight with Ron and end up having to kill him. I know that Gimple loves turning the entire cast into spineless cowards (aside from Rick or Carol) who can't do anything "mean", but Carl seriously needs to do something interesting. I would put the likelyness of this at 30% (85% if Darabont or Mazzara was still the EP), but I am hoping for it despite the odds. What do you think? Will Carl kill a former friend and take a dark turn, or will Gimple continue making Carl a damn boyscout? I would love to discuss how likely any of this is, or if anyone has another theory involving Carl or Ron.

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    • Well Carl and Ron could get into a serious fight (Ron shoots Carl's eye out?) In the trailer you can see Rick tackle Ron to the ground.

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    • Maybe he won´t kill him, but he will let him die... In the comic he didn´t let him die, but maybe in TV show, Ron will catch Koral and Koral will push him back in the horde

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    • Maybe. All I know is I like what they are doing with Ron, and predicted it way before the comic con trailer.

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    • Anyone else think Ron looks like he's stoned a lot?

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    • I swear to God if the show makes a love triangle between three fifteen year olds a big thing, I will cry.

      I think Carl should accidently kill Ron, This would bring out the darker side of him. It would create a lot of drama, potentional and fantastic development for Carl.

      If he loses the eye and kills Ron, I might like Carl.

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    • I don't like the idea of a "love triangle" between a bunch of teenagers, but tension between a teenager and another one who is sheltered from the outside world would be interesting. But hopefully, it's very brief. 

      My best bet is, yes, it's probably gonna happen. Gimple's likely taking the opportunity to flesh out Ron in the show because he likes the idea of Ron reacting to Pete's death negatively (being the only Anderson to do so) and having the repercussion of Rick killing Pete be the thing that instigates Carl into a darker character.

      My guess is, Carl will probably kill him during the herd attack, and Sam and Jessie go out like Comic Jessie and Ron. 

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    • My prediction is that Ron will try and kill Rick but Rick lets him live because he has begun listening to Morgan. Later Ron will join the group that tries to overthrow Rick. I see the Rebels being spencer, Nicholas, and Olivia like in the comics, but will also include people like Ron, Carter, and a few new characters. I think the uprising will be a bigger deal in the show, and that Ron will get killed by accident when Carl overhears their plan like Glenn in the comics, and Carl shots and kills him but then runs away

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    • That is very interesting theory right there!

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    • I think since it's obvious Carl likes Enid but knows shes with Ron he'll keep his distance but she will start having more interest in him and Ron notices this and becomes envious, then picks a fight with him only to get almost beaten to death by Carl with a shovel (like Carl almost killing the two bullies trying to kill Sophia in the comic). Though he wouldn't kill him there would still be tension between the two afterward which would put a strain on Rick and Jessie, as it would be difficult for them to be together if their children tried to kill each other. 

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    • Does anybody else think that they're replacing comic book Sophia with Enid?

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    • PeriPokaDot wrote:
      Does anybody else think that they're replacing comic book Sophia with Enid?

      Maybe the Carl-Sophia thang, but the Maggie-Sophia thang is replaced with Carol-Sam

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    • Wouldn't it be funny if it was Ron Rick is pointing his gun to and telling him "You really think you're gonna take this community away from us? From Daryl, from Michonne, from Glenn, from ME!? Do you have any idea who you are talking to?"


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    • Evil Zelena wrote:
      Wouldn't it be funny if it was Ron Rick is pointing his gun to and telling him "You really think you're gonna take this community away from us? From Daryl, from Michonne, from Glenn, from ME!? Do you have any idea who you are talking to?"


      Rick Grimes Season 6

      Do you really think that Rick would point his gun at the son of his girlfriend? And telling that to a kid? I think that´s Nicholas

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    • LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      Wouldn't it be funny if it was Ron Rick is pointing his gun to and telling him "You really think you're gonna take this community away from us? From Daryl, from Michonne, from Glenn, from ME!? Do you have any idea who you are talking to?"


      Rick Grimes Season 6
      Do you really think that Rick would point his gun at the son of his girlfriend? And telling that to a kid? I think that´s Nicholas

      It was just a guess but with Rick you never know. Hell Carol threatened to kill Sam so what makes you think Rick would not threaten Ron if he tried to get Rick in some sort of trouble. If anything he is probably talking to one of the members of the Wolves or it could be Nicholas like you said.

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    • Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      Wouldn't it be funny if it was Ron Rick is pointing his gun to and telling him "You really think you're gonna take this community away from us? From Daryl, from Michonne, from Glenn, from ME!? Do you have any idea who you are talking to?"


      Rick Grimes Season 6
      Do you really think that Rick would point his gun at the son of his girlfriend? And telling that to a kid? I think that´s Nicholas
      It was just a guess but with Rick you never know. Hell Carol threatened to kill Sam so what makes you think Rick would not threaten Ron if he tried to get Rick in some sort of trouble. If anything he is probably talking to one of the members of the Wolves or it could be Nicholas like you said.

      I don´t think Rick is this kind of a person... Maybe he would try to talk with Ron... But I don´t think he would point his gun on him... And if, Ron than must have done some crazy freaking shit...

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    • LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      Wouldn't it be funny if it was Ron Rick is pointing his gun to and telling him "You really think you're gonna take this community away from us? From Daryl, from Michonne, from Glenn, from ME!? Do you have any idea who you are talking to?"


      Rick Grimes Season 6
      Do you really think that Rick would point his gun at the son of his girlfriend? And telling that to a kid? I think that´s Nicholas
      It was just a guess but with Rick you never know. Hell Carol threatened to kill Sam so what makes you think Rick would not threaten Ron if he tried to get Rick in some sort of trouble. If anything he is probably talking to one of the members of the Wolves or it could be Nicholas like you said.
      I don´t think Rick is this kind of a person... Maybe he would try to talk with Ron... But I don´t think he would point his gun on him... And if, Ron than must have done some crazy freaking shit...

      We will have to wait and see. By the preview they make it look like he is pointing his gun at Morgan but I don't think that is who he is talking to. I swear October can't come soon enough. I can't wait til this show starts back up.

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    • Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      Wouldn't it be funny if it was Ron Rick is pointing his gun to and telling him "You really think you're gonna take this community away from us? From Daryl, from Michonne, from Glenn, from ME!? Do you have any idea who you are talking to?"


      Rick Grimes Season 6
      Do you really think that Rick would point his gun at the son of his girlfriend? And telling that to a kid? I think that´s Nicholas
      It was just a guess but with Rick you never know. Hell Carol threatened to kill Sam so what makes you think Rick would not threaten Ron if he tried to get Rick in some sort of trouble. If anything he is probably talking to one of the members of the Wolves or it could be Nicholas like you said.
      I don´t think Rick is this kind of a person... Maybe he would try to talk with Ron... But I don´t think he would point his gun on him... And if, Ron than must have done some crazy freaking shit...
      We will have to wait and see. By the preview they make it look like he is pointing his gun at Morgan but I don't think that is who he is talking to. I swear October can't come soon enough. I can't wait til this show starts back up.

      I also don´t think it´s Morgy, also in trailer for season 5, it looked like Rick is talking to Gareth, althrough, Gareth was talking to Terminants and Rick to Abraham... But I think that there will be some conflicts between Rick and Morgan, maybe Morgan was saying to Rick that "You can get the hell out of this comunity and you don´t have to come back"...

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    • LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      Wouldn't it be funny if it was Ron Rick is pointing his gun to and telling him "You really think you're gonna take this community away from us? From Daryl, from Michonne, from Glenn, from ME!? Do you have any idea who you are talking to?"


      Rick Grimes Season 6
      Do you really think that Rick would point his gun at the son of his girlfriend? And telling that to a kid? I think that´s Nicholas
      It was just a guess but with Rick you never know. Hell Carol threatened to kill Sam so what makes you think Rick would not threaten Ron if he tried to get Rick in some sort of trouble. If anything he is probably talking to one of the members of the Wolves or it could be Nicholas like you said.
      I don´t think Rick is this kind of a person... Maybe he would try to talk with Ron... But I don´t think he would point his gun on him... And if, Ron than must have done some crazy freaking shit...
      We will have to wait and see. By the preview they make it look like he is pointing his gun at Morgan but I don't think that is who he is talking to. I swear October can't come soon enough. I can't wait til this show starts back up.
      I also don´t think it´s Morgy, also in trailer for season 5, it looked like Rick is talking to Gareth, althrough, Gareth was talking to Terminants and Rick to Abraham... But I think that there will be some conflicts between Rick and Morgan, maybe Morgan was saying to Rick that "You can get the hell out of this comunity and you don´t have to come back"...

      I remember the season 5 trailer. It was very misleading. I thought Gareth was gonna go with Rick to Washington and it was the total opposite. I also think you are right with Rick and Morgan about conflicts between them. From the way it looks on the trailer I think Rick will have conflicts with other people besides Morgan.

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    • This theory is a bit wild, but Ron is acting like a prick anyways, like, Pete beat the shit of Jessie and Sam almost all the time, most likely him too, but why is he pissed at Rick, and what Jessie wants nothing to do with Rick now, but I hope (and most likely) she'll come around 

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    • If Carl loses and eye I will be very very very happy :) i hate that little shit with every bone in my body. I hope they do get into a fight and i hope he tries to kill Rick to :)

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    • Why does everyone think Carl will lose his eye :B

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    • MaidenOfHope wrote:
      Why does everyone think Carl will lose his eye :B

      I don´t think that, Carl is even bigger bitch in TV Show than in the comic, he doesn´t deserve the badass look

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    • Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      Wouldn't it be funny if it was Ron Rick is pointing his gun to and telling him "You really think you're gonna take this community away from us? From Daryl, from Michonne, from Glenn, from ME!? Do you have any idea who you are talking to?"


      Rick Grimes Season 6
      Do you really think that Rick would point his gun at the son of his girlfriend? And telling that to a kid? I think that´s Nicholas
      It was just a guess but with Rick you never know. Hell Carol threatened to kill Sam so what makes you think Rick would not threaten Ron if he tried to get Rick in some sort of trouble. If anything he is probably talking to one of the members of the Wolves or it could be Nicholas like you said.
      I don´t think Rick is this kind of a person... Maybe he would try to talk with Ron... But I don´t think he would point his gun on him... And if, Ron than must have done some crazy freaking shit...
      We will have to wait and see. By the preview they make it look like he is pointing his gun at Morgan but I don't think that is who he is talking to. I swear October can't come soon enough. I can't wait til this show starts back up.
      I also don´t think it´s Morgy, also in trailer for season 5, it looked like Rick is talking to Gareth, althrough, Gareth was talking to Terminants and Rick to Abraham... But I think that there will be some conflicts between Rick and Morgan, maybe Morgan was saying to Rick that "You can get the hell out of this comunity and you don´t have to come back"...
      I remember the season 5 trailer. It was very misleading. I thought Gareth was gonna go with Rick to Washington and it was the total opposite. I also think you are right with Rick and Morgan about conflicts between them. From the way it looks on the trailer I think Rick will have conflicts with other people besides Morgan.

      Well... it was Carter taking Nicholas´ place...

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    • LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      Evil Zelena wrote:
      Wouldn't it be funny if it was Ron Rick is pointing his gun to and telling him "You really think you're gonna take this community away from us? From Daryl, from Michonne, from Glenn, from ME!? Do you have any idea who you are talking to?"


      Rick Grimes Season 6
      Do you really think that Rick would point his gun at the son of his girlfriend? And telling that to a kid? I think that´s Nicholas
      It was just a guess but with Rick you never know. Hell Carol threatened to kill Sam so what makes you think Rick would not threaten Ron if he tried to get Rick in some sort of trouble. If anything he is probably talking to one of the members of the Wolves or it could be Nicholas like you said.
      I don´t think Rick is this kind of a person... Maybe he would try to talk with Ron... But I don´t think he would point his gun on him... And if, Ron than must have done some crazy freaking shit...
      We will have to wait and see. By the preview they make it look like he is pointing his gun at Morgan but I don't think that is who he is talking to. I swear October can't come soon enough. I can't wait til this show starts back up.
      I also don´t think it´s Morgy, also in trailer for season 5, it looked like Rick is talking to Gareth, althrough, Gareth was talking to Terminants and Rick to Abraham... But I think that there will be some conflicts between Rick and Morgan, maybe Morgan was saying to Rick that "You can get the hell out of this comunity and you don´t have to come back"...
      I remember the season 5 trailer. It was very misleading. I thought Gareth was gonna go with Rick to Washington and it was the total opposite. I also think you are right with Rick and Morgan about conflicts between them. From the way it looks on the trailer I think Rick will have conflicts with other people besides Morgan.
      Well... it was Carter taking Nicholas´ place...

      Yes I was so wrong. LOL!

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    • LeonSGrimes wrote:

      MaidenOfHope wrote:
      Why does everyone think Carl will lose his eye :B

      I don´t think that, Carl is even bigger bitch in TV Show than in the comic, he doesn´t deserve the badass look

      I dont understand, is something supposed to happen to Carl in the show? I dont read the comics

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    • MaidenOfHope wrote:
      Why does everyone think Carl will lose his eye :B

      Cuz they want Carl to follow his comicbook counterpart as he lost an eye in the comics 

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    • LeonSGrimes wrote:
      PeriPokaDot wrote:
      Does anybody else think that they're replacing comic book Sophia with Enid?
      Maybe the Carl-Sophia thang, but the Maggie-Sophia thang is replaced with Carol-Sam

      I'm still not sure that Sam (and his mum) will survive long. I suspect that Jessie and Sam will get their comic deaths in the MSF. The way Sam held onto his mother's hand on the stairs in JSS looked (to me) like a deliberate foreshadowing of the comic deaths. Sam's death would devastate Carol, and that's just the way TWD writers like to do things.

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    • MikeLacey wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      PeriPokaDot wrote:
      Does anybody else think that they're replacing comic book Sophia with Enid?
      Maybe the Carl-Sophia thang, but the Maggie-Sophia thang is replaced with Carol-Sam
      I'm still not sure that Sam (and his mum) will survive long. I suspect that Jessie and Sam will get their comic deaths in the MSF. The way Sam held onto his mother's hand on the stairs in JSS looked (to me) like a deliberate foreshadowing of the comic deaths. Sam's death would devastate Carol, and that's just the way TWD writers like to do things.

      I think Ron and Jessie will die the same way, but Sam will survive, cuz he will maybe be somewhere else (eating some cookies)

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    • LeonSGrimes wrote:
      MikeLacey wrote:
      LeonSGrimes wrote:
      PeriPokaDot wrote:
      Does anybody else think that they're replacing comic book Sophia with Enid?
      Maybe the Carl-Sophia thang, but the Maggie-Sophia thang is replaced with Carol-Sam
      I'm still not sure that Sam (and his mum) will survive long. I suspect that Jessie and Sam will get their comic deaths in the MSF. The way Sam held onto his mother's hand on the stairs in JSS looked (to me) like a deliberate foreshadowing of the comic deaths. Sam's death would devastate Carol, and that's just the way TWD writers like to do things.
      I think Ron and Jessie will die the same way, but Sam will survive, cuz he will maybe be somewhere else (eating some cookies)

      I'd prefer it that way as well - but will we get it? :)

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    • I believe Ron will take Douglas/Deanna's death and in the process shoot Carl's eye out. Another theory is maybe if Sam and Jessie die like in the comics which I don't believe will happen, Ron will Atempt to kill Rick because he blames Rick. However Carl will protect Rick, and get his eye shot out. I believe Ron will take deanna/Douglas' death because I don't believe deanna will die like Douglas. I also don't believe the show will kill off the whole Anderson family because I think they are too important

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    • I hope Carl, Ron and Enid all die and free us from the stupid pubescent love triangle plot line we've all been subjected to. Carl; generally useless unless you consider babysitting and having an absolutely retarded looking haircut/hat a skill. Ron, a scheming little butt pirate whom should by rights probably kill Rick, not for revenge for his father but for Rick being so dumb as to not see his little betrayal/assassination attempt coming. And finally we have Enid..... don't get me started. Somehow even the zombie apocalypse does no free us from Emo girls, prone to fits of hormone driven solitude and faux depressed sass talk. Please, please, feed he to the zombies and free up time in the show for something remotely interesting to happen.

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    • Ron is such a coward, a reckless coward and needs to die...seriously...what use is there for him?

      Now Carl has grit! he actually helps and can be relied upon especially where Judith is concerned, a relationship with Enid would be good for him. Think of how much of a boy Glenn was until he got into a relationship with Maggie. Now Glenn has grown into a man with purpose, having Judith and Enid to love might be just what Carl needs to grow as a character. (Sam on the other hand is basically walker bait and needs to toughen up damn). Little Carl was much stronger than he is when the show began.

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    • I agree I think Enid will replace Sophia from the comics you know since she's been dead for you know four seasons...

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    • Then Carl will break up with her and then Lydia??? If she ever makes it into the TV Series

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