• Can you guys believe Negan killed Both Abraham and Glenn it's absolute bullcrap and positively outrages what do you guys think?

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    • So many people called it! 

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    • Maybe so but it was kind of inevitable.

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    • The only difference is the ways they died

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    • Yes i know but that's not my point.

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    • killing abraham sucks but killing glenn ruins the dynamics of the show and cast. thats it for me im done watching they had a good thing going and they are ruining it what a shame

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    • Yeah in fact it wouldn't surprise me if season 7 was the final season in the walking dead series.


      BTW when i said it was inevitable i meant that it was inevitable that negan would take a wack at everybody else and it was also inevitable that he killed glenn because after all he kill him in the comics.

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    • AND Abraham would've died before this moment, and Glenn died in the comics. 

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    • i just said that.

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    • Their deaths were spoiled since July BUT they did a good job with it, especially Glenn. Episode felt a little dragged out but was good.

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    • I think the way they pulled it kinda ruined it. Mainly because things feel a little too recycled. I mean we already had a pregnancy ending with one parent dying (Lori) and Abraham's death mirrors Karen's death (the woman Tyreese loved). Plus I know people will disagree, but this episode was just so brutally gory, it honestly just feels like it was a money grab. The episode itself was well done, but a part of me feels like I only think that because of the emotional shock from the dinner scene. That's my two cents.

      (Also quick intro, hi, I'm Soda, current emotional wreck nice to meet y'all)

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    • Jamesgang68 wrote:
      killing abraham sucks but killing glenn ruins the dynamics of the show and cast. thats it for me im done watching they had a good thing going and they are ruining it what a shame

      Don't complain it makes you realize that NO ONE IS SAFE. There are other people in the world and will die 

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    • Stupid writing IMO. Daryl started shit so Daryl should have died not Glenn, not that I care. It's just very unprofessional

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    • but i guess it's not so bad at least Abraham is with his wife and kids again and Glenn is with whoever else was in his family besides Maggie.

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    • TwoFacedMan wrote:
      Stupid writing IMO. Daryl started shit so Daryl should have died not Glenn, not that I care. It's just very unprofessional

      I mean looking at it from Negan's prospective, it makes him look more threatening and less predicatble. Psychologically it fucks with the group more since killing Daryl would have been the obvious thing.


      Looking at it from the showrunners prespective, why kill Daryl "Cash Cow" Dixon?

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    • I hate Daryl for getting Glenn killed. I'm gonna miss Abe and Glenn so much! :(

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    • Just a quick FYI, Negan didn't take a wack at everybody - he said to Rick "Think about what could STILL happen". Then it shows Rick imagining the others getting hit.

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    • Jimmy444 wrote:
      I hate Daryl for getting Glenn killed. I'm gonna miss Abe and Glenn so much! :(

      Who isn't gonna miss them right?

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    • Pokemonmastercb wrote: Yeah in fact it wouldn't surprise me if season 7 was the final season in the walking dead series.

      You do realize it has already been renewed for Season 8 right?

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    • Give me a break will you.

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    • I thought it was great. I kinda liked Glenn, and especially liked Abraham, but it's about time this goddamn show actually made the bad guys dangerous again. I'm not particularly attached to any of these protagonists anymore anyway, because the main characters just effortlessly win every goddamn time, with only pointless side characters like Noah or Denise ever being the ones to die.

      I think it'll be interesting for the next while, and it was VERY refreshing for the main characters to get utterly fucked in the ass for once.

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    • SodaCat wrote:
      I think the way they pulled it kinda ruined it. Mainly because things feel a little too recycled. I mean we already had a pregnancy ending with one parent dying (Lori) and Abraham's death mirrors Karen's death (the woman Tyreese loved). Plus I know people will disagree, but this episode was just so brutally gory, it honestly just feels like it was a money grab. The episode itself was well done, but a part of me feels like I only think that because of the emotional shock from the dinner scene. That's my two cents.

      (Also quick intro, hi, I'm Soda, current emotional wreck nice to meet y'all)

      Lol, hi Soda. I'm feeling the same way that you are. I think that the reason I felt it was way too much gore this time around is because I was attached to the character. I didn't really care if Abe died. Like, he Negan didn't have to kill him like that but when he took that whack at Glenn, my heart dropped.  Not that my one view will matter but I am not sure if I want to continue watching if Glenn isn't going to be on the show. He's one of my favorites aside from Daryl, Michonne, Carol and sometimes Carl. We can be sad together. 

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    • The spoilers were true. But as a fan, we always want to see the actual death. I feel like I'm dying inside right now.

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    • People mad at daryl? Really nowww?? at least he GOT guts standing up for abraham when he knew he could die.... Did he knew negen will attack glenn?? no... he didn't sooo why people blame him and not mad at Negen?

      Imagine someone bludgeon your brother to death an you snap.... and charge at the attacker with rage.. but then he bludgeon your sister to make example of you.. issit your fault to be angry?? no... 

      Seriously it sicken me when viewer never use their head to think or put themselves in the situations..

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    • Jamesgang68 wrote:
      killing abraham sucks but killing glenn ruins the dynamics of the show and cast. thats it for me im done watching they had a good thing going and they are ruining it what a shame

      Like the comic this will probably be the turning point for me. I never cared about any of the characters who were introduced after the prison massacre, and once Glenn was killed I just stopped caring altogether. There's a fine line between killing a few characters to keep the audience interested, and killing so many that we just expect them to die.

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    • Daryl's actions cost Glenn's life, but that was Daryl.  He's been taking care of the kid since Season 1.  Bad move, but totally natural.  

      Negan took out the biggest threat based on little knowledge and what we saw.  Rick can be controlled by using Carl.  No one else there presented a threat in Negan's mind, but . . . 

       Everything about Abraham Ford screamed military and Negan knew he would pose a threat.  Someone made a comment that killing Abraham made no sense because soldiers are followers and take orders. No, soldiers are fighters trained to protect. One look into Abraham's eyes and Negan knew he would continue to come after him over and over and over again until one of them killed the other. Lucille didn't land on Abraham by mistake.  

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    • Noriyatsu wrote:

      People mad at daryl? Really nowww?? at least he GOT guts standing up for abraham when he knew he could die.... Did he knew negen will attack glenn?? no... he didn't sooo why people blame him and not mad at Negen?

      Imagine someone bludgeon your brother to death an you snap.... and charge at the attacker with rage.. but then he bludgeon your sister to make example of you.. issit your fault to be angry?? no... 

      Seriously it sicken me when viewer never use their head to think or put themselves in the situations..

      Oh people are mad at Negan, but they're also mad at Daryl too and it's because if he hadn't punched Negan (even if his rage was understandable and he was most likely standing up for Rosita), then Negan wouldn't have made an example of Glenn like that. At this point, we know that Negan means business when he says he won't let shit like that slide, that he'll "shut that shit down, no exceptions". I mean, that was the reason he killed Abraham in the first place, to show Rick's group that he won't let them get away with what they did to his group. So of course it's going to be horribly obvious he won't let Daryl get away with punching him like that. For me, I already had a feeling he won't just kill Daryl because that would be too easy and pain-free for him. So he does the next best thing, which is to kill a another person in the group to teach them yet another lesson that he's serious. Just look at Daryl's face when Negan starts bludgeoning Glenn to death - he looked guilty and horrified. So people are mad at Daryl, because he was reckless. This just goes back to the whole concept of "your actions has consequences". Daryl punching Negan indirectly resorted in Glenn's death. 

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    • About Daryl being the cause of Glenn's death:

      Glenn did a huge mistake in last season's finale episode. He tried assulting Negan to save Maggie when he thought the former would kill his pregnant wife. No other survivor in Rick's group tried something like that during Negan's grand entry and stayed in their positions. And remember what he said after Glenn was put back in line: "Alright, listen, don't any of you do that again. I will shut that shit down, no exceptions." 

      Negan couldn't possibly forget such an act, and from what we saw in this episode, it looked like he planned for a second kill anyway. So while Daryl's intervention may have sparked Glenn's death, or whatever, it was ultimately Glenn's own doing of getting himself killed. I don't know. That's my take on it anyway...

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    • Mel Sailor wrote:
      About Daryl being the cause of Glenn's death:

      Glenn did a huge mistake in last season's finale episode. He tried assulting Negan to save Maggie when he thought the former would kill his pregnant wife. No other survivor in Rick's group tried something like that during Negan's grand entry and stayed in their positions. And remember what he said after Glenn was put back in line: "Alright, listen, don't any of you do that again. I will shut that shit down, no exceptions." 

      Negan couldn't possibly forget such an act, and from what we saw in this episode, it looked like he planned for a second kill anyway. So while Daryl's intervention may have sparked Glenn's death, or whatever, it was ultimately Glenn's own doing of getting himself killed. I don't know. That's my take on it anyway...

      A part of me still believes that if Daryl hadn't attacked Negan, Negan wouldn't have killed Glenn. I mean, as horrible and threatening as Negan is, he's proven so far that he is indeed a man of his word. I do see that maybe he chose to kill Glenn based on that previous attempt to attack him, but I don't believe he would've as you said, "planned for a second kill anyway" without reason. Daryl gave him that reason though. He didn't directly kill Daryl, because that would be too easy, so he decided on another person in Rick's group and I guess Glenn was at the top of that list. And sure, you can argue that at this point it was ultimately Glenn's own doing of getting himself killed, but before that point, he was safe. Negan wasn't going to kill him or anyone else, until Daryl threw that punch. 

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    • Well, that will drag the series into a new level. Rick has no enough men left, he lost his best 3 men in one episode (Abraham, Glenn and Daryl). Daryl may come back one day, but until that day he is undercounted and will be not able to stand against Negan. 

      And the idea of making Daryl the reason for Glenn's dead is also clever, it will bring probably a new story between Maggie and Daryl and I could also say Maggie may hate Daryl now. 

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    • Slyxdx wrote:
      Mel Sailor wrote:
      About Daryl being the cause of Glenn's death:

      Glenn did a huge mistake in last season's finale episode. He tried assulting Negan to save Maggie when he thought the former would kill his pregnant wife. No other survivor in Rick's group tried something like that during Negan's grand entry and stayed in their positions. And remember what he said after Glenn was put back in line: "Alright, listen, don't any of you do that again. I will shut that shit down, no exceptions." 

      Negan couldn't possibly forget such an act, and from what we saw in this episode, it looked like he planned for a second kill anyway. So while Daryl's intervention may have sparked Glenn's death, or whatever, it was ultimately Glenn's own doing of getting himself killed. I don't know. That's my take on it anyway...

      A part of me still believes that if Daryl hadn't attacked Negan, Negan wouldn't have killed Glenn. I mean, as horrible and threatening as Negan is, he's proven so far that he is indeed a man of his word. I do see that maybe he chose to kill Glenn based on that previous attempt to attack him, but I don't believe he would've as you said, "planned for a second kill anyway" without reason. Daryl gave him that reason though. He didn't directly kill Daryl, because that would be too easy, so he decided on another person in Rick's group and I guess Glenn was at the top of that list. And sure, you can argue that at this point it was ultimately Glenn's own doing of getting himself killed, but before that point, he was safe. Negan wasn't going to kill him or anyone else, until Daryl threw that punch. 

      Good point! 

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    • And too think they call Negan evil incarnate this is the guy who they say is more corrupt and diabolical than Shane,The Governor and the Wolves put together i mean if Negan ever anymore evil too the core he would of killed all his own people aside from rick and his group.


      Not that anyone actually understands what i'm talking about.

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    • Pokemonmastercb wrote:
      Yeah in fact it wouldn't surprise me if season 7 was the final season in the walking dead series.


      BTW when i said it was inevitable i meant that it was inevitable that negan would take a wack at everybody else and it was also inevitable that he killed glenn because after all he kill him in the comics.

      He didnt "take a wack" at anyone else, it was a thought Rick had when Negan said "Think what still can happen" if he didnt get his axe back.

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    • Edgeofnight wrote:

      TwoFacedMan wrote:
      Stupid writing IMO. Daryl started shit so Daryl should have died not Glenn, not that I care. It's just very unprofessional

      I mean looking at it from Negan's prospective, it makes him look more threatening and less predicatble. Psychologically it fucks with the group more since killing Daryl would have been the obvious thing.


      Looking at it from the showrunners prespective, why kill Daryl "Cash Cow" Dixon?

      TBH I dont even care no more. Rick, Carl, Michonne, Maggie, Rosita, Sasha, Aaron, Eugene and Daryl can all die in upcoming episodes.

      If Negan was gonna kill 2 then it should have been Carl and Daryl not Abraham and Glenn like everyone already knew before the episode came out. Its ridiculous.

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    • This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!

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    • I think being mad at Darryl, is ridiculous. Even if he's not a personal favorite of mine he did what his character would have done when someone disrespects a woman in front of him. Negan purposely was baiting Rosita, and Darryl had no clue Glenn would die.

      I'm more pissed that Darryl was abducted by Negan and crew on top of Abraham's death stealing Glen's thunder. Negan is a bad son of a gun, but the show amped it up too much. I felt no tears over either death to and that sucked.


      Now I wonder if Darryl will be given Holly's Trojan Zombie Death? We will see.

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    • UndeadMuse wrote:
      I think being mad at Darryl, is ridiculous. Even if he's not a personal favorite of mine he did what his character would have done when someone disrespects a woman in front of him. Negan purposely was baiting Rosita, and Darryl had no clue Glenn would die.

      I'm more pissed that Darryl was abducted by Negan and crew on top of Abraham's death stealing Glen's thunder. Negan is a bad son of a gun, but the show amped it up too much. I felt no tears over either death to and that sucked.


      Now I wonder if Darryl will be given Holly's Trojan Zombie Death? We will see.

      People are mad because of how reckless Daryl was, especially after what Negan said about not letting shit like that slide. Yeah Daryl acted realistically, but that still doesn't change the fact that his actions had consequences to them. It's actually a bit understandable why people would be mad at Daryl. I mean, at this point, we know that Negan was serious and he already gave a warning to the group, so Daryl punching him wasn't something he was going to let slide. He was definitely going to make an example out of someone after that. I mean, how else was he going to show that he wasn't kidding around, because like he said, he is a man of his word :\

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    • I think Glen was gonna have to go to continue following the comic storyline. After hearing rumors leading up to the premiere i wasnt surprised to see both go but i was surprised and pleased by how closely they followed the comics for Glenns death. The show will have to deviate from the comics significantly at some point to end the show in my opinion.

      I have so many questions as to where the show will go from here. I think it's a safe bet to assume All Out War won't happen until season 8. With that being said, I think more cast members will have to go in order for Gimple to maintain the viewers hate for Negan. The bar has been set pretty high with that entrance and bad writing/filler episodes will take away from the conflict at hand. Not to mention the fact that we'll have action going on amongst 4 different locations with distance in between them. The last thing I want to see is Negan not acting like Negan. 

      My guess is Spencer being the next one to go.

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    • Noriyatsu wrote:

      People mad at daryl? Really nowww?? at least he GOT guts standing up for abraham when he knew he could die.... Did he knew negen will attack glenn?? no... he didn't sooo why people blame him and not mad at Negen?

      Imagine someone bludgeon your brother to death an you snap.... and charge at the attacker with rage.. but then he bludgeon your sister to make example of you.. issit your fault to be angry?? no... 

      Seriously it sicken me when viewer never use their head to think or put themselves in the situations..

      Yeah, cuz getting himself killed would solve anything...  Negan kinda had the right to kill them, Rick killed his people... Daryl is a cock, and he is responsible for Glenn... I fucking wanted Daryl dead... I mean, I know that killing Glenn had to be done, but still, Darlina is cock, he should´ve died (it would be even  better)

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    • Paedr01 wrote: This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!

      Jesus is gonna be the one who kills Negan not Rick.

      Rick is Negan's dog and if he will have beef with someone it will be with Simon

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    • Noriyatsu wrote:

      People mad at daryl? Really nowww?? at least he GOT guts standing up for abraham when he knew he could die.... Did he knew negen will attack glenn?? no... he didn't sooo why people blame him and not mad at Negen?

      Imagine someone bludgeon your brother to death an you snap.... and charge at the attacker with rage.. but then he bludgeon your sister to make example of you.. issit your fault to be angry?? no... 

      Seriously it sicken me when viewer never use their head to think or put themselves in the situations..

      Negan said that he will shut that shit down. Youre a fool and so are the characters there if you think that you could just react like that and get away with it. Honestly if that was the case then Rick woulda charged at Negan first. Daryl was idiot and for that he should die. Yime for new characters to appear on screen.

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    • Umm. This is kind of off topic, but how was Daryl even able to punch Negan.? He was shot literally earlier that day, not to mention he punched him with the arm that was shot.

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    • Pokemonmastercb wrote:
      Can you guys believe Negan killed Both Abraham and Glenn and apparently he wacked everybody else.  it's absolute bullcrap and positively outrages what do you guys think?

      Negan didn't hit anyone else with Lucille. When Rick was out there slashing away at walkers and Negan was in the RV, he told Rick "get my ax or think of what MIGHT happen to the rest of them" and then Rick got the ax and was fighting his way back to the RV while having images pop into his head of everyone else getting hit. They didn't actually get hit; it was Rick's imagining of what COULD happen if Rick didn't listen. 

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    • ShoReWol wrote:
      Umm. This is kind of off topic, but how was Daryl even able to punch Negan.? He was shot literally earlier that day, not to mention he punched him with the arm that was shot.

      good point. but maybe he was able to ignore the pain enough to get in one good punch, idk.

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    • Slyxdx wrote:
      UndeadMuse wrote:
      I think being mad at Darryl, is ridiculous. Even if he's not a personal favorite of mine he did what his character would have done when someone disrespects a woman in front of him. Negan purposely was baiting Rosita, and Darryl had no clue Glenn would die.

      I'm more pissed that Darryl was abducted by Negan and crew on top of Abraham's death stealing Glen's thunder. Negan is a bad son of a gun, but the show amped it up too much. I felt no tears over either death to and that sucked.


      Now I wonder if Darryl will be given Holly's Trojan Zombie Death? We will see.

      People are mad because of how reckless Daryl was, especially after what Negan said about not letting shit like that slide. Yeah Daryl acted realistically, but that still doesn't change the fact that his actions had consequences to them. It's actually a bit understandable why people would be mad at Daryl. I mean, at this point, we know that Negan was serious and he already gave a warning to the group, so Daryl punching him wasn't something he was going to let slide. He was definitely going to make an example out of someone after that. I mean, how else was he going to show that he wasn't kidding around, because like he said, he is a man of his word :\

      I agree. I'm totally mad at Daryl. I'm not one of these flakey fans who will completely stop watching the show if Daryl dies or who won't hold Daryl to anything he's responsible for. Daryl got Glenn killed. Yea he acted realistically but Negan already WARNED them that if they step out of line that something bad will happen. And something DID happen. Perhaps Daryl was accepting of the fact that it might be him but it wasn't him and now Daryl has to live with that guilt. And one of the ways that Glenn's spirit will live on, in my opinion, is if Daryl continues to feel that guilt for seasons to come. 

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    • Winterlotus90 wrote:

      Pokemonmastercb wrote:
      Can you guys believe Negan killed Both Abraham and Glenn and apparently he wacked everybody else.  it's absolute bullcrap and positively outrages what do you guys think?

      Negan didn't hit anyone else with Lucille. When Rick was out there slashing away at walkers and Negan was in the RV, he told Rick "get my ax or think of what MIGHT happen to the rest of them" and then Rick got the ax and was fighting his way back to the RV while having images pop into his head of everyone else getting hit. They didn't actually get hit; it was Rick's imagining of what COULD happen if Rick didn't listen. 

      You are right cause at first I thought he hit everyone else with Lucille but that was actually a vision going through Rick's mind of what Negan would do to the rest of his people. Like the vision where everyone was at the table eating dinner. Those were just thoughs going through Rick's mind. Plus everyone else would have been covered in blood if he had hit them too.

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    • ClemFan2012 wrote:

      Winterlotus90 wrote:

      Pokemonmastercb wrote:
      Can you guys believe Negan killed Both Abraham and Glenn and apparently he wacked everybody else.  it's absolute bullcrap and positively outrages what do you guys think?
      Negan didn't hit anyone else with Lucille. When Rick was out there slashing away at walkers and Negan was in the RV, he told Rick "get my ax or think of what MIGHT happen to the rest of them" and then Rick got the ax and was fighting his way back to the RV while having images pop into his head of everyone else getting hit. They didn't actually get hit; it was Rick's imagining of what COULD happen if Rick didn't listen. 
      You are right cause at first I thought he hit everyone else with Lucille but that was actually a vision going through Rick's mind of what Negan would do to the rest of his people. Like the vision where everyone was at the table eating dinner. Those were just thoughs going through Rick's mind. Plus everyone else would have been covered in blood if he had hit them too.

      Exactly! 

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    • Well that negan surely smart. The one that did the mess not the one that paid for it but someone else. Guilty feeling and hate can break the group. And i know its harsh to accept 2 people died like that but its gonna make the payback a lot sweeter.

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    • its messed up. i cant even... like why? we almost had near death experinces with glenn... then they just take him away!!

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    • You guys have nothing on me now.

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    • Paedr01 wrote:
      This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!

      Negan doesn't die in the comics, what makes you think he'll die in the show? He's the biggest asset currently comic-wise.

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    • I still say it was inevitable.

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    • Scarlet-Lafontaine wrote:
      Paedr01 wrote:
      This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!
      Negan doesn't die in the comics, what makes you think he'll die in the show? He's the biggest asset currently comic-wise.

      The show doesn't give two shits who lives or dies in the comics; the show's its own beast: Dale died at the Greene farm instead of being eaten by cannibals (granted that was because of BTS drama), Lori died giving birth to Judith instead of during the Governor's assault on the prison, the Governor survived the first prison assault, Andrea is still alive in the comics and is Rick's GF instead of Michonne, and Carol and Judith have far outlived their comic book counterparts.

      As much as I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan as an actor (he's the only man who could make Negan work in live action), I can't wait to see him die a brutal death on the show. I hope Rick's last words to a dying Negan are "I told you I was going to kill you. I'm a man of my word."

      On the subject of TV not imitating comics, I hope Daryl gets his crossbow back, puts an arrow right in Dwight's deformed face, and takes Dwight's place in the show as the post-Negan leader of the Saviors. Choppers, crossbows and surly looks for everyone!

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    • LeafNinjaGoku wrote:
      Scarlet-Lafontaine wrote:
      Paedr01 wrote:
      This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!
      Negan doesn't die in the comics, what makes you think he'll die in the show? He's the biggest asset currently comic-wise.
      The show doesn't give two shits who lives or dies in the comics; the show's its own beast: Dale died at the Greene farm instead of being eaten by cannibals (granted that was because of BTS drama), Lori died giving birth to Judith instead of during the Governor's assault on the prison, the Governor survived the first prison assault, Andrea is still alive in the comics and is Rick's GF instead of Michonne, and Carol and Judith have far outlived their comic book counterparts.

      As much as I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan as an actor (he's the only man who could make Negan work in live action), I can't wait to see him die a brutal death on the show. I hope Rick's last words to a dying Negan are "I told you I was going to kill you. I'm a man of my word."

      On the subject of TV not imitating comics, I hope Daryl gets his crossbow back, puts an arrow right in Dwight's deformed face, and takes Dwight's place in the show as the post-Negan leader of the Saviors. Choppers, crossbows and surly looks for everyone!

      All of your examples seem to come from events related to season 3, which we all know, are a result of Mazzarra's poor writing. Since Gimple has taKen over things have followed the comics tighter. The show very much cares who lives or dies depending on how it effects the overall plot. Abraham was on borrowed time. Glenns death opens up specific events for Maggie down the road. Certain characters have been replaced and adoptEd other characters storylines completely because of it. Tyrese was underutilized in season 3 and one could argue that effected other characters roles further down the road. 


      With that being said I wouldnt be surprised to see Negan die in the show as I don't think the show will run much further than season 8 and it might be better for ending the show compared to how the comics have continued. I could see Morgan's influence on Rick prevent him from killing Negan as well.

      I like youre Daryl and Dwight idea though. Would make sense to have  Daryl Maggie and Rick all running different colonies before the series ends. And the whole added dynamic of Simon on the show makes me think Dwight character will be different than what were used to seeing in the comics.

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    • It was a little boring for me. Kinda knew it anyway. Thumbs down.

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    • There should be an out-of-canon movie The Governor versus Negan

      I would be with Team Governor. He was jerk but still quite cool and not so purely evil.

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    • Yeah at least the Governor didn't do what Negan did and kill 2 of ricks people all in one episode but he could of if he wanted too but the point is he didn't.

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    • Now Negan is going to kill Spencer monroe by cutting him in his guts.

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    • And i'm beginning too wonder if any other characters from the comics besides Negan and Ezekiel will appear in the show characters like Alpha and The Whisperers now i know that may side like an unlikely pile of crap but come on it's a guess people "Just" a guess so please don't give me hell about it.

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    • Pokemonmastercb wrote:
      And i'm beginning too wonder if any other characters from the comics besides Negan and Ezekiel will appear in the show characters like Alpha and The Whisperers now i know that may side like an unlikely pile of crap but come on it's a guess people "Just" a guess so please don't give me hell about it.

      I think it depends on whether the show actually chooses to progress towards a definitive ending or if it is planning on running 10+ seasons and just constantly introduce new threats season after season. I feel like some of the non comic book fans are starting to get to that point now because they don't understand how the comics work and they don't understand who Negan is. My opinion is that the show is at a point now where they could end up being one of the best shows of all time or have its legacy be grouped into the CSI and Law and Orders of the world. They have to continue changing the dynamic and I don't know if the Whisperers are that significant to carry the show. 

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    • Well of course the Whisperers are gross.

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    • Pokemonmastercb wrote:
      Yeah at least the Governor didn't do what Negan did and kill 2 of ricks people all in one episode but he could of if he wanted too but the point is he didn't.

      Depends on who you call "Ricks people" given the Governer has killed multiple "minor" people in one given episode. Then there's all the people he offed too soon.They could have altered the whole show surviving.

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    • Pokemonmastercb wrote:
      And i'm beginning too wonder if any other characters from the comics besides Negan and Ezekiel will appear in the show characters like Alpha and The Whisperers now i know that may side like an unlikely pile of crap but come on it's a guess people "Just" a guess so please don't give me hell about it.

      Chances are the Whisperers will appear, not sure the raping of them will be shown, given the scene with Carl and the Claimers makes me think they could pull it off, but yet there's still a lot about the Whisperers I can't see getting through censors.

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    • Scarlet-Lafontaine wrote:

      Depends on who you call "Ricks people" given the Governer has killed multiple "minor" people in one given episode. Then there's all the people he offed too soon.They could have altered the whole show surviving.

      When i said "Rick's people" i meant Hershel and Michonne the Governor could of killed both of them if he wanted too but he but he only killed Hershel do you understand what i'm saying now?

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    • I didn't see the producors do as much character development with Glenn as was done with some other cast members. The dumpster cliffhanger showed his following though. Interesting that he was chosen to end his part in the series, but I wouldn't call it a huge surprise. It had the desired impact without removing any leading characters.

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    • in the comics, have the villains ever really bumped into one another even once? I'm disgusted with the fact Negan was given a pardon and allowed to live in the comics(yet AMC-Rick promises to kill him and could have if he was willing to sacrifice himself), but doesn't just bump into Alpha who puts his head on a pike to mark her perimeter. Governer never meets Negan, Alpha never roasts marshmellows with "the Wolves".. I guess the villainous know how to keep miles between each other, riiiiiight...I know this is zombie fiction.. but it's starting to get more far fetched than Star Wars in terms of human psychology. Negan has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many sheep on his side to be phucked with.. without one of his own killing him for prior offense? I know a couple are about to go turncoat on Negan understandably, but it all seems like crap writing to me now. In reality, when you push people that far, hot-iron people's faces.. you aren't gonna be able to create a group of more than 7heads before they set you up for some medieval-payback..Perhaps Rob Kirkman deeply understands cowardice from things he has seen in his own life, but I don't feel that way about mankind at all. I'm down with being expendable in this candy-coated world, so why isn't anyone in a miserable zombie apocalypse? Bad writing.. Well let's add E-Zeek and a tiger to the TV show to make it super realistic!!! I should just drop acid and watch the Ring again. Makes more sense than the way Beth died. They should of had her slip on a banana peel into the slabtown hosital elevator shaft. "I'm gonna needlessly sacrifice myself to stab this bitch's clavicle." Noyce!!


      RIP Abe & Glenn..i guess..

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    • In the comics The governor ran a smal, town in Georgia. They didn't run into Negan or Alpha until the crew went north to DC. So it's feasible given how closed off pockets of living human society formed that they wouldn't have met up. And even if they did what would they do form a league of sociopathic villains? I know the walking dead is a comic to but bad guy team ups belong to costume characters. Alpha, Negan and the Governor all had way too big of egos to work together. 


      Also I thought the wolves were a watered down nod to the whisperers. I have a  bad feeking the saviors will combine some aspect of Alphas group giving Negan'so portrayal. We shall see if he keeps the comics twisted honor code.

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    • innevitable really, Abraham was spared the crossbow bolt for a reason, his chat with Eugene was a goodbye if ever there was one & Glenn took his appointed death. If he'd survived this there would be no doubt some criticising the show for wrecking the comic storyline. It is a pivotal moment that a. shows no-one is safe, b. significantly weakens Ricks group, c. shows us what kind of threat Negan is & d. sets up the development of Maggie. Its the emotional gut punch that was needed to carry us into the second phase of the walking dead story. Also, Daryl is being set up to take a more prominent role as this version of Dwight has zero redeeming qualities and I cant envisage him being able to garner any sympathy for his motivations as he just comes across as vile coward. All in all sad to see them both go but truthfully we aren't in this for happy endings are we people?

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    • Et Genasis wrote:

      LeafNinjaGoku wrote:
      Scarlet-Lafontaine wrote:
      Paedr01 wrote:
      This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!
      Negan doesn't die in the comics, what makes you think he'll die in the show? He's the biggest asset currently comic-wise.
      The show doesn't give two shits who lives or dies in the comics; the show's its own beast: Dale died at the Greene farm instead of being eaten by cannibals (granted that was because of BTS drama), Lori died giving birth to Judith instead of during the Governor's assault on the prison, the Governor survived the first prison assault, Andrea is still alive in the comics and is Rick's GF instead of Michonne, and Carol and Judith have far outlived their comic book counterparts.

      As much as I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan as an actor (he's the only man who could make Negan work in live action), I can't wait to see him die a brutal death on the show. I hope Rick's last words to a dying Negan are "I told you I was going to kill you. I'm a man of my word."

      On the subject of TV not imitating comics, I hope Daryl gets his crossbow back, puts an arrow right in Dwight's deformed face, and takes Dwight's place in the show as the post-Negan leader of the Saviors. Choppers, crossbows and surly looks for everyone!

      All of your examples seem to come from events related to season 3, which we all know, are a result of Mazzarra's poor writing. Since Gimple has taKen over things have followed the comics tighter. The show very much cares who lives or dies depending on how it effects the overall plot. Abraham was on borrowed time. Glenns death opens up specific events for Maggie down the road. Certain characters have been replaced and adoptEd other characters storylines completely because of it. Tyrese was underutilized in season 3 and one could argue that effected other characters roles further down the road. 


      With that being said I wouldnt be surprised to see Negan die in the show as I don't think the show will run much further than season 8 and it might be better for ending the show compared to how the comics have continued. I could see Morgan's influence on Rick prevent him from killing Negan as well.

      I like youre Daryl and Dwight idea though. Would make sense to have  Daryl Maggie and Rick all running different colonies before the series ends. And the whole added dynamic of Simon on the show makes me think Dwight character will be different than what were used to seeing in the comics.

      Utter nonsense. Daryl will die. Rick wil die. Negan wont die by Rick's hand, not before he deals with Simon anyway. And I can tell you now that Simon looks like he'll be one the very few that will survive until the end. Daryl vs Dwight is very promising, although I expect Daryl to die, Dwight is an asshole but he knows when to listen unlike Daryl. Let's just face it Daryl dug his own tombstone when he attacked Negan and now he has to live with Glenn's blood on his hands and I don't think he'll make ot very far with that guilt TBH.

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    • I've hated Glenn since "The Suicide King" (3x09) and I love Daryl even more for getting him killed.









      Let the hate roll in.

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    • DrPieguy81 wrote:
      I've hated Glenn since "The Suicide King" (3x09) and I love Daryl even more for getting him killed.









      Let the hate roll in.

      Lol, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Nice try though! :)

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    • Et Genasis wrote:
      LeafNinjaGoku wrote:
      Scarlet-Lafontaine wrote:
      Paedr01 wrote:
      This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!
      Negan doesn't die in the comics, what makes you think he'll die in the show? He's the biggest asset currently comic-wise.
      The show doesn't give two shits who lives or dies in the comics; the show's its own beast: Dale died at the Greene farm instead of being eaten by cannibals (granted that was because of BTS drama), Lori died giving birth to Judith instead of during the Governor's assault on the prison, the Governor survived the first prison assault, Andrea is still alive in the comics and is Rick's GF instead of Michonne, and Carol and Judith have far outlived their comic book counterparts.

      As much as I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan as an actor (he's the only man who could make Negan work in live action), I can't wait to see him die a brutal death on the show. I hope Rick's last words to a dying Negan are "I told you I was going to kill you. I'm a man of my word."

      On the subject of TV not imitating comics, I hope Daryl gets his crossbow back, puts an arrow right in Dwight's deformed face, and takes Dwight's place in the show as the post-Negan leader of the Saviors. Choppers, crossbows and surly looks for everyone!

      All of your examples seem to come from events related to season 3, which we all know, are a result of Mazzarra's poor writing. Since Gimple has taKen over things have followed the comics tighter. The show very much cares who lives or dies depending on how it effects the overall plot. Abraham was on borrowed time. Glenns death opens up specific events for Maggie down the road. Certain characters have been replaced and adoptEd other characters storylines completely because of it. Tyrese was underutilized in season 3 and one could argue that effected other characters roles further down the road. 


      With that being said I wouldnt be surprised to see Negan die in the show as I don't think the show will run much further than season 8 and it might be better for ending the show compared to how the comics have continued. I could see Morgan's influence on Rick prevent him from killing Negan as well.

      I like youre Daryl and Dwight idea though. Would make sense to have  Daryl Maggie and Rick all running different colonies before the series ends. And the whole added dynamic of Simon on the show makes me think Dwight character will be different than what were used to seeing in the comics.

      I won't dispute the problems of the Mazzara era of the show. But another reason for some of the changes from the comics have come from Robert Kirkman himself out of regret over what he did to certain characters in the comics. For example, Hershel was supposed to be the one who lost his legs in the comics, but at that point Kirkman didn't have his almost George R. R. Martin-esque since of glee at just continually shitting on characters; come TV series they cut that damn leg off! Also, the borrowed time argument is kind of flawed when you consider the fact Carol has flourished as a character in the show while her comic book counterpart killed herself at the prison, and doesn't seem to be slowing down. And Tyreese in the show was basically the polar opposite of the comics, while most of his time on the show was after Gimple took over. It's all about what the writers think will benefit the show more, not just what happens in the comics.

      The Walking Dead will last as long it continues to bring in tens of millions of viewers per episode, or the producers themselves decide to end it, which doesn't look to be anytime soon given how much enthusiasm they still have for the show. Kirkman himself anticipates no less than 12 seasons.

      And thanks for bringing up Simon; I completely forgot about him! We have Rick v. Negan, Daryl v. Dwight, but who will be Simon's foil in Alexandria? My bet is Morgan: Simon is Negan's right hand man, and with both Abraham and Glenn dead someone has to rise to Rick's right hand and who better than the first person Rick met in the apocalypse? Without going into details, I say Morgan temporarily puts aside the Eastman Code and does what needs to be done. Otherwise it'll probably be Carol, matching aloof stone cold with aloof stone cold.

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    • Yea I'm pretty upset with Daryl.

      1.) He was the one who suggested that they go in and kill Negan's men for the Hilltop people.

      2.) He took off on his motorcycle, worrying Glenn, Rosita, and Michonne, who then went after him to make sure he was okay. He shouldn't have left to go after Dwight. Rosita was right.. he wasn't going to kill Dwight for Denise. She was already dead. He was doing it for his own emotional gain.

      3.) Negan told them to not step out of line again. And then Daryl stepped out of line causing Glenn to get killed. 

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    • DrPieguy81 wrote:

      You can't be serious. >:(

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    • LeafNinjaGoku wrote:
      Scarlet-Lafontaine wrote:
      Paedr01 wrote:
      This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!
      Negan doesn't die in the comics, what makes you think he'll die in the show? He's the biggest asset currently comic-wise.

      As much as I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan as an actor (he's the only man who could make Negan work in live action), I can't wait to see him die a brutal death on the show. I hope Rick's last words to a dying Negan are "I told you I was going to kill you. I'm a man of my word."

      YAAAAAAAASS. 

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    • I'm just glad the show finally grew some balls and took major inspiration from the comic for this episode. Since most of the seasons since two have been less than stellar, I gotta say I really enjoyed this episode solely because it felt more like it was jumping out of the far superior comics than any other episode AMC has made before. Kudos to them for pushing the boundaries of basic cable.

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    • Nommyzombiesx wrote:
      I'm just glad the show finally grew some balls and took major inspriration from the comic for this episode. Since most of the seasons since two have been less than stellar, I gotta say I really enjoyed this episode solely because it felt more like it was jumping out of the far superior comics than any other episode before. Kudos to AMC for pushing the boundaries of basic cable.


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    • I hope Rick hacks Negan's skull out with that very same axe Negan gave him

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    • LeafNinjaGoku wrote:

      Et Genasis wrote:
      LeafNinjaGoku wrote:
      Scarlet-Lafontaine wrote:
      Paedr01 wrote:
      This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!
      Negan doesn't die in the comics, what makes you think he'll die in the show? He's the biggest asset currently comic-wise.
      The show doesn't give two shits who lives or dies in the comics; the show's its own beast: Dale died at the Greene farm instead of being eaten by cannibals (granted that was because of BTS drama), Lori died giving birth to Judith instead of during the Governor's assault on the prison, the Governor survived the first prison assault, Andrea is still alive in the comics and is Rick's GF instead of Michonne, and Carol and Judith have far outlived their comic book counterparts.

      As much as I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan as an actor (he's the only man who could make Negan work in live action), I can't wait to see him die a brutal death on the show. I hope Rick's last words to a dying Negan are "I told you I was going to kill you. I'm a man of my word."

      On the subject of TV not imitating comics, I hope Daryl gets his crossbow back, puts an arrow right in Dwight's deformed face, and takes Dwight's place in the show as the post-Negan leader of the Saviors. Choppers, crossbows and surly looks for everyone!

      All of your examples seem to come from events related to season 3, which we all know, are a result of Mazzarra's poor writing. Since Gimple has taKen over things have followed the comics tighter. The show very much cares who lives or dies depending on how it effects the overall plot. Abraham was on borrowed time. Glenns death opens up specific events for Maggie down the road. Certain characters have been replaced and adoptEd other characters storylines completely because of it. Tyrese was underutilized in season 3 and one could argue that effected other characters roles further down the road. 


      With that being said I wouldnt be surprised to see Negan die in the show as I don't think the show will run much further than season 8 and it might be better for ending the show compared to how the comics have continued. I could see Morgan's influence on Rick prevent him from killing Negan as well.

      I like youre Daryl and Dwight idea though. Would make sense to have  Daryl Maggie and Rick all running different colonies before the series ends. And the whole added dynamic of Simon on the show makes me think Dwight character will be different than what were used to seeing in the comics.

      I won't dispute the problems of the Mazzara era of the show. But another reason for some of the changes from the comics have come from Robert Kirkman himself out of regret over what he did to certain characters in the comics. For example, Hershel was supposed to be the one who lost his legs in the comics, but at that point Kirkman didn't have his almost George R. R. Martin-esque since of glee at just continually shitting on characters; come TV series they cut that damn leg off! Also, the borrowed time argument is kind of flawed when you consider the fact Carol has flourished as a character in the show while her comic book counterpart killed herself at the prison, and doesn't seem to be slowing down. And Tyreese in the show was basically the polar opposite of the comics, while most of his time on the show was after Gimple took over. It's all about what the writers think will benefit the show more, not just what happens in the comics.

      The Walking Dead will last as long it continues to bring in tens of millions of viewers per episode, or the producers themselves decide to end it, which doesn't look to be anytime soon given how much enthusiasm they still have for the show. Kirkman himself anticipates no less than 12 seasons.

      And thanks for bringing up Simon; I completely forgot about him! We have Rick v. Negan, Daryl v. Dwight, but who will be Simon's foil in Alexandria? My bet is Morgan: Simon is Negan's right hand man, and with both Abraham and Glenn dead someone has to rise to Rick's right hand and who better than the first person Rick met in the apocalypse? Without going into details, I say Morgan temporarily puts aside the Eastman Code and does what needs to be done. Otherwise it'll probably be Carol, matching aloof stone cold with aloof stone cold.

      Daryl vs Dwight Rick vs Simon Jesus vs Negan

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    • Eko is Oke wrote:

      LeafNinjaGoku wrote:

      Et Genasis wrote:
      LeafNinjaGoku wrote:
      Scarlet-Lafontaine wrote:
      Paedr01 wrote:
      This Negan character ... When Rick kills him, I hope it's a long, slow, drawn-out process!!!
      Negan doesn't die in the comics, what makes you think he'll die in the show? He's the biggest asset currently comic-wise.
      The show doesn't give two shits who lives or dies in the comics; the show's its own beast: Dale died at the Greene farm instead of being eaten by cannibals (granted that was because of BTS drama), Lori died giving birth to Judith instead of during the Governor's assault on the prison, the Governor survived the first prison assault, Andrea is still alive in the comics and is Rick's GF instead of Michonne, and Carol and Judith have far outlived their comic book counterparts.

      As much as I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan as an actor (he's the only man who could make Negan work in live action), I can't wait to see him die a brutal death on the show. I hope Rick's last words to a dying Negan are "I told you I was going to kill you. I'm a man of my word."

      On the subject of TV not imitating comics, I hope Daryl gets his crossbow back, puts an arrow right in Dwight's deformed face, and takes Dwight's place in the show as the post-Negan leader of the Saviors. Choppers, crossbows and surly looks for everyone!

      All of your examples seem to come from events related to season 3, which we all know, are a result of Mazzarra's poor writing. Since Gimple has taKen over things have followed the comics tighter. The show very much cares who lives or dies depending on how it effects the overall plot. Abraham was on borrowed time. Glenns death opens up specific events for Maggie down the road. Certain characters have been replaced and adoptEd other characters storylines completely because of it. Tyrese was underutilized in season 3 and one could argue that effected other characters roles further down the road. 


      With that being said I wouldnt be surprised to see Negan die in the show as I don't think the show will run much further than season 8 and it might be better for ending the show compared to how the comics have continued. I could see Morgan's influence on Rick prevent him from killing Negan as well.

      I like youre Daryl and Dwight idea though. Would make sense to have  Daryl Maggie and Rick all running different colonies before the series ends. And the whole added dynamic of Simon on the show makes me think Dwight character will be different than what were used to seeing in the comics.

      I won't dispute the problems of the Mazzara era of the show. But another reason for some of the changes from the comics have come from Robert Kirkman himself out of regret over what he did to certain characters in the comics. For example, Hershel was supposed to be the one who lost his legs in the comics, but at that point Kirkman didn't have his almost George R. R. Martin-esque since of glee at just continually shitting on characters; come TV series they cut that damn leg off! Also, the borrowed time argument is kind of flawed when you consider the fact Carol has flourished as a character in the show while her comic book counterpart killed herself at the prison, and doesn't seem to be slowing down. And Tyreese in the show was basically the polar opposite of the comics, while most of his time on the show was after Gimple took over. It's all about what the writers think will benefit the show more, not just what happens in the comics.

      The Walking Dead will last as long it continues to bring in tens of millions of viewers per episode, or the producers themselves decide to end it, which doesn't look to be anytime soon given how much enthusiasm they still have for the show. Kirkman himself anticipates no less than 12 seasons.

      And thanks for bringing up Simon; I completely forgot about him! We have Rick v. Negan, Daryl v. Dwight, but who will be Simon's foil in Alexandria? My bet is Morgan: Simon is Negan's right hand man, and with both Abraham and Glenn dead someone has to rise to Rick's right hand and who better than the first person Rick met in the apocalypse? Without going into details, I say Morgan temporarily puts aside the Eastman Code and does what needs to be done. Otherwise it'll probably be Carol, matching aloof stone cold with aloof stone cold.

      Daryl vs Dwight Rick vs Simon Jesus vs Negan

      I don't necessarily see anyone v anyone beyond rick and negan. Yeah Daryl and Dwight have something to settle but that won't necessarily end with a fight. Simon is the wild card because I feel like they've gone out of their way to establish his role in the last 2 episodes. Will his personal embody part of Dwight in the comics or will he be a completely new character. They've said the show is gonna follow closer to the comics in season 7 as well. Food for thought. What I'm most curious about this season is how they will bounce back and forth between areas. Will it continue to be on an episode to episode basis or will it float around like game of thrones does. I feel like the got style is more interesting because it forces your perspective a little more with running timeliness in different locations. Especially with 3 or 4 cast reguLars in each location

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    • To everyone that Rick should kill Negan in the TV Series even if he doesn't in the Comics, I only see ONE way that they would do something that stupid. They could have Negan killed at the end of All out war ONLY if they decide to stop The Walking Dead TV Series at that point. 'Cause if they want to keep going, with New Beginning, Whisperers and everything, not having Negan would be a bit like having no Andrea in the Show. Oh yeah right that's the case and we got fucking Richonne, so.

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    • Glenn's death was unnecessary and heartbreaking. Abe's was sad because of his peace sign and Sasha's face. I expected Glenn to be one of those people whos head was put on a spike by Alpha, but that will never happen anymore.

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    • ThisIsTaboada wrote:
      Glenn's death was unnecessary and heartbreaking. Abe's was sad because of his peace sign and Sasha's face. I expected Glenn to be one of those people whos head was put on a spike by Alpha, but that will never happen anymore.

      Tbh, I would've been satisfied if Abe was one of those people instead of Rosita, even though he's one of my favorite characters.

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    • The next characters i think that are going to die in season 7 are: Carol(Due to her mental state.) she is going to ge killed by Morgan and Spencer by Negan's hands. Dwight and Ezekiel are going to join Rick's group.

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    • Tesshu wrote:
      The next characters i think that are going to die in season 7 are: Carol(Due to her mental state.) she is going to ge killed by Morgan and Spencer by Negan's hands. Dwight and Ezekiel are going to join Rick's group.

      I get the feeling killing Carol off would just plummit their ratings. Carol, Daryl, and Michone are all big draw ins, and to kill off Carol because she's having a struggle with things seems like a good way to kill the shows ratings, given Daryl should be offed for having caused everyone else's struggles atm.

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    • Isn't she long dead by the time Negan kills Glenn in the comics?

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    • Not at all. I guess the episode was okay, but it felt like they were dragging out Glenn's death for the comic readers or the people who read spoilers cuz they don't care. They wanna do something different, okay. They're making an adaptation, of course they do. But if they wanted to kill off Glenn to be true to the reason Negan exists in the first place, they should have killed him off first. Which was more shocking? Who had been with them longer, who had everything going for them, was basically friends with everyone, who - second to Dale - never lost touch with their morality (got close, but didn't go over the edge)? Glenn, and that's why I appreciate them choosing to stick to the original continuity by killing Glenn. And then killing off Abraham afterward would have laid on the shock even more, cuz it would have made you feel that nobody was safe behind plot armor. Well, almost nobody. If I didn't spoil it for myself, my thoughts if it went that way would have been, "They killed Glenn! Dramatic! I'm already freaking out, and holyshittheregoesAbraham! Fuck!"

      The cliffhanger for the previous season finale was really fucking stupid too. That scene should have gone uninterrupted by episode divides or cliffhangers to really stay with us and be truly brutal. It was ruined by the cliffhanger cuz it gave viewers a reprieve from the emotional tension. The cliffhanger should have come in at Negan's introduction (not at the "who's-it-gonna-be" part) so that in the next episode, when the hits start, they just keep on coming until the fat lady sings.

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    • I guess my main beef with the whole shin-dig other than losing two characters(i liked) in one ep.. is Morgan's cage/cell being prep'd possibly for mercy upon Negan. I'm not feeling/liking the trade-offs & tv/comic parallels anymore...back to my scheduled butthurt-ted-ness lol

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    • I predicted their deaths since day one. It had to be two to make up for S6 finale. In the end Glenn dying was long time coming

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    • i agree that's why i said his death was inevitable...

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    • Tesshu wrote:
      The next characters i think that are going to die in season 7 are: Carol(Due to her mental state.) she is going to ge killed by Morgan and Spencer by Negan's hands. Dwight and Ezekiel are going to join Rick's group.

      Carol isn't gonna die if Morales doesn't show up... They will keep the Atlanta four alive like in the comic... Though, maybe they will kill her, cuz Morgan is still there, but most likely no... She will probably take Maggie's place as the leader of Hilltop... Also, her mental state got better, Ezekiel and Morgan brought her back.

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    • I hope so, Carol is the only family that Daryl got left, she is a motherly figure to him. I think that Ezekiel will start a relationship with Carol if am not mistaken.

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    • Tesshu wrote:
      I hope so, Carol is the only family that Daryl got left, she is a motherly figure to him. I think that Ezekiel will start a relationship with Carol if am not mistaken.

      Well in the comics it's Michonne who basically is the one not to get with unless you desire to die in every relationship. Tyreese, Morgan, Ezekiel, all die while or right after being with her.

      So if Carol gets with Ezekiel would that have the potential to mean he won't die, nor Shiva, like in the comics? Or would we end up with the Whisperers offing the same people? Last person close to being with Carol was Axel and he died before he could flirt a second longer.

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    • In response to the first post:

      I have not read the comics, but I do have a very good understanding of what happens in them as well as how much the [don't] differ from the TV Show. Abraham and Glenn's deaths did not emotionally impact me as much as they should have. It would have been more shocking had I done more to avoid spoilers. But, sadly, they were definitely inevitable anywhere in the online community.

      Upon skimming across this thread I have found people are blaming Daryl for Glenn's death. Here's what I have to say:

      Let's say a kid around 6 years of age wants a peice of candy. The mother says "No, you can't eat candy after 7 o'clock." He steals a peice of candy, only to be caught by the mother. The mother gets onto him and later tells his brother and him not to do anything like that as well to avoid further punishment. The brother steals a peice, and later gets disciplined.

      Daryl's situation is no different. Glenn disrupted the momentum thus he "got onto them" and "tells [the rest of the group] not to do anything like that" again "to avoid further punishment." Daryl does so so in turn Glenn dies. Anyone saying Daryl is to blame is entirely rational, although I can see where the people defending Daryl are coming from.

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    • Spoiling Dead called it. I kept hoping Spoiling Dead was wrong and it would only be one character. I was a fool not to believe them.

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    • It also angers me that Abraham died. His death gets completely overshadowed by Glenn's death. I was hoping that he would last much longer and be used in All Out War, but now I'm thinking what was the point of not giving him his comic book death if he gets killed 3 episodes later. Also, I feel like Abraham died just for shock value, so that people would be surprised when Glenn, the most predicted victim, was killed.

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    • CT-6116 wrote: Spoiling Dead called it. I kept hoping Spoiling Dead was wrong and it would only be one character. I was a fool not to believe them.

      Yeah, they figured it out quickly. I wish TPTB were able to hide these deaths by bringing SY and MC on the set sometimes at least as an appearance but I guess that wouldn't be cost effective for them or something, plus SY and MC have their own careers/lives to focus on. Oh well, but it helped set a dark and frantic tone for the season!

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    • By the way, the soda that was seen in s6 was Orange Crush. who gets the bat first?

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    • One very important thing about Negan's first scene (His grand enterance, if you will), is that he needs to kill someone that affects every other character in a negative way. The death in that sequence had to be a death that made it feel like something's missing after Negan's done. Abraham was an interesting choice, I had to say, because I was interested to see how he would react to Negan's kill. Same with Glenn. However, Negan killed Abe to throw us off. To make us suspect nothing. It was a sigh of relief that the horror was over.

      Glenn was a symbol of innocence. He was a caring, compassionate member of the group that had a strong relationship with everyone in it. In a way, he was a symbol of the group's purity and innocence. He was the perfect choice for the kill. Trust me, I love Glenn, and I wish he was still alive because I want to see how he interacts with Negan and the Saviours. But, unfortunately, that's not going to happen, and it's because they did the death scene right. One could say it would've worked if they'd have killed of Daryl, or Sasha. Hell, even Maggie. But Glenn? Glenn was the one who had to die to establish that Negan wasn't just another wimpy villain like Dawn or Gareth...

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    • TheMightyContorted wrote:
      One very important thing about Negan's first scene (His grand enterance, if you will), is that he needs to kill someone that affects every other character in a negative way. The death in that sequence had to be a death that made it feel like something's missing after Negan's done. Abraham was an interesting choice, I had to say, because I was interested to see how he would react to Negan's kill. Same with Glenn. However, Negan killed Abe to throw us off. To make us suspect nothing. It was a sigh of relief that the horror was over.

      Glenn was a symbol of innocence. He was a caring, compassionate member of the group that had a strong relationship with everyone in it. In a way, he was a symbol of the group's purity and innocence. He was the perfect choice for the kill. Trust me, I love Glenn, and I wish he was still alive because I want to see how he interacts with Negan and the Saviours. But, unfortunately, that's not going to happen, and it's because they did the death scene right. One could say it would've worked if they'd have killed of Daryl, or Sasha. Hell, even Maggie. But Glenn? Glenn was the one who had to die to establish that Negan wasn't just another wimpy villain like Dawn or Gareth...

      Took those words right out of my mouth, you nailed the scene well.

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