• Maggie mourning Glenn should have been a major storyline in season 7 and 8. I kinda wanted to see an existental crisis or something. See Maggie want to die, and having to find a reason to go on. Instead we only had small glimpses of her here and there.

    And season 9 will have time skip, so we won't see it there.

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    • She got close in the episode with Zombie-Blood Weapons, but then the Hilltop outbreak kind of led us away from that. I see your point. Maggie is a tough character, no doubt about that, but we've seen tough characters have breakdowns before. Rick when he lost Lori, Rick when he thought he lost Judith, Tara when Lilly and Meghan died, Abraham when his Washington DC dream died. I think they could have shown Maggie grieve a tad more, even if she had to do it in private to put a strong face on for Hilltop. Might have helped if we had less episodes that just focused on one community each.

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    • RazeSpear wrote:
      She got close in the episode with Zombie-Blood Weapons, but then the Hilltop outbreak kind of led us away from that. I see your point. Maggie is a tough character, no doubt about that, but we've seen tough characters have breakdowns before. Rick when he lost Lori, Rick when he thought he lost Judith, Tara when Lilly and Meghan died, Abraham when his Washington DC dream died. I think they could have shown Maggie grieve a tad more, even if she had to do it in private to put a strong face on for Hilltop. Might have helped if we had less episodes that just focused on one community each.

      Yeah, the whole Alden/Dante-thing will feel unearned, not that I was ever really fan of it to begin with. Would have loved to see her really go down, like Rick did after Lori's death in season 3.

      Anyway, I hope her ABC-pilot gets greenlight, so that we can see her in lead-role.

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    • Theropod from the North wrote:
      RazeSpear wrote:
      She got close in the episode with Zombie-Blood Weapons, but then the Hilltop outbreak kind of led us away from that. I see your point. Maggie is a tough character, no doubt about that, but we've seen tough characters have breakdowns before. Rick when he lost Lori, Rick when he thought he lost Judith, Tara when Lilly and Meghan died, Abraham when his Washington DC dream died. I think they could have shown Maggie grieve a tad more, even if she had to do it in private to put a strong face on for Hilltop. Might have helped if we had less episodes that just focused on one community each.
      Yeah, the whole Alden/Dante-thing will feel unearned, not that I was ever really fan of it to begin with. Would have loved to see her really go down, like Rick did after Lori's death in season 3.

      Anyway, I hope her ABC-pilot gets greenlight, so that we can see her in lead-role.

      As an actress, I think she does a fine job, so if she gets the greenlight, that will be pretty big for her. If they have to kill Maggie though, not sure who will lead Hilltop. Maybe Jesus? Or maybe we just won't see Hilltop as much and she'll live. 

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    • RazeSpear wrote:
      Theropod from the North wrote:
      RazeSpear wrote:
      She got close in the episode with Zombie-Blood Weapons, but then the Hilltop outbreak kind of led us away from that. I see your point. Maggie is a tough character, no doubt about that, but we've seen tough characters have breakdowns before. Rick when he lost Lori, Rick when he thought he lost Judith, Tara when Lilly and Meghan died, Abraham when his Washington DC dream died. I think they could have shown Maggie grieve a tad more, even if she had to do it in private to put a strong face on for Hilltop. Might have helped if we had less episodes that just focused on one community each.
      Yeah, the whole Alden/Dante-thing will feel unearned, not that I was ever really fan of it to begin with. Would have loved to see her really go down, like Rick did after Lori's death in season 3.

      Anyway, I hope her ABC-pilot gets greenlight, so that we can see her in lead-role.

      As an actress, I think she does a fine job, so if she gets the greenlight, that will be pretty big for her. If they have to kill Maggie though, not sure who will lead Hilltop. Maybe Jesus? Or maybe we just won't see Hilltop as much and she'll live. 

      Yes, but as Gleggie was from season 2-7, I would really wanted to see Maggie down, maybe even wanting to kill herself, since they glossed over that part in the comics. Have happy dreams and then waking up depressed and screaming. Have the baby be her drive to continue living,

      Definetly hoping for the pilot to be picked up, but we should know by May 15th, when ABC announces them.

      Alden could go for Jesus and they could raise Hershel Rhee, lol

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    • I wouldn't go over-the-top and say Maggie should have wanted to die and then decide to live for the baby. I don't think she was ever the kind of character who would decide enough was enough, when she has a baby and people depending on her. But I would have loved the writers to have fleshed out her grieving a bit. Then again, they messed up a lot of potential and plotlines in 7-8. They didn't know what to do with Maggie and never found find the balance between the many communities and the leaders of them. Maggie was kind of in the background for the main part. There was not enough time, when they should have made time. Cutting out unimportant communities (Oceanside) and eliminating The Scavengers earlier would have been the smart move to free time for important character development.

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      I wouldn't go over-the-top and say Maggie should have wanted to die and then decide to live for the baby. I don't think she was ever the kind of character who would decide enough was enough, when she has a baby and people depending on her. But I would have loved the writers to have fleshed out her grieving a bit. Then again, they messed up a lot of potential and plotlines in 7-8. They didn't know what to do with Maggie and never found find the balance between the many communities and the leaders of them. Maggie was kind of in the background for the main part. There was not enough time, when they should have made time. Cutting out unimportant communities (Oceanside) and eliminating The Scavengers earlier would have been the smart move to free time for important character development.

      I think we should seen her on the bottom, since her and Glenn were star-crossed lovers and all. The TV-Show anyway can never make her and Alden belivable. We didn't see the much of the griefe and the pain, so it wouldn't feel earned.

      Anyway, I'm very happy that Whiskey Cavalier was picked up, since Lauren will be the lead over there, meaning we will get a regular dosis of that woman! (:

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      Kates39 wrote:
      I wouldn't go over-the-top and say Maggie should have wanted to die and then decide to live for the baby. I don't think she was ever the kind of character who would decide enough was enough, when she has a baby and people depending on her. But I would have loved the writers to have fleshed out her grieving a bit. Then again, they messed up a lot of potential and plotlines in 7-8. They didn't know what to do with Maggie and never found find the balance between the many communities and the leaders of them. Maggie was kind of in the background for the main part. There was not enough time, when they should have made time. Cutting out unimportant communities (Oceanside) and eliminating The Scavengers earlier would have been the smart move to free time for important character development.

      I think we should seen her on the bottom, since her and Glenn were star-crossed lovers and all. The TV-Show anyway can never make her and Alden belivable. We didn't see the much of the griefe and the pain, so it wouldn't feel earned.

      Anyway, I'm very happy that Whiskey Cavalier was picked up, since Lauren will be the lead over there, meaning we will get a regular dosis of that woman! (:

      I completely agree. Maggie should have hit rock-bottom in the same way Rick had. It's a very under-developed plotline which will continue to impact the show in the future, in the same way Carl's death will impact The Whisperer arc and Lydia. The show's not very smart about it changes and keeps anymore.

      Maggie's grief had proper development in the comic book and the connection with Alden was believable because of it. But on the TV show, it will be out of the ordinary. I love the definition "it wouldn't feel earned". I will certainly be saying that a lot in the future!

      And yes! Lauren should have the recognition she deserves. It's a shame the writers of The Walking Dead haven't realised it yet. I hope it won't lead towards Maggie being written off the show in the near future. Norman Reedus put it best when he said certain characters need to be off-limits to keep people invested. Enough major characters were written off/died in terrible ways/before their time without adding Maggie.

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    • Kates39 wrote:

      Theropod from the North wrote:

      Kates39 wrote:
      I wouldn't go over-the-top and say Maggie should have wanted to die and then decide to live for the baby. I don't think she was ever the kind of character who would decide enough was enough, when she has a baby and people depending on her. But I would have loved the writers to have fleshed out her grieving a bit. Then again, they messed up a lot of potential and plotlines in 7-8. They didn't know what to do with Maggie and never found find the balance between the many communities and the leaders of them. Maggie was kind of in the background for the main part. There was not enough time, when they should have made time. Cutting out unimportant communities (Oceanside) and eliminating The Scavengers earlier would have been the smart move to free time for important character development.
      I think we should seen her on the bottom, since her and Glenn were star-crossed lovers and all. The TV-Show anyway can never make her and Alden belivable. We didn't see the much of the griefe and the pain, so it wouldn't feel earned.

      Anyway, I'm very happy that Whiskey Cavalier was picked up, since Lauren will be the lead over there, meaning we will get a regular dosis of that woman! (:

      I completely agree. Maggie should have hit rock-bottom in the same way Rick had. It's a very under-developed plotline which will continue to impact the show in the future, in the same way Carl's death will impact The Whisperer arc and Lydia. The show's not very smart about it changes and keeps anymore.

      Maggie's grief had proper development in the comic book and the connection with Alden was believable because of it. But on the TV show, it will be out of the ordinary. I love the definition "it wouldn't feel earned". I will certainly be saying that a lot in the future!

      And yes! Lauren should have the recognition she deserves. It's a shame the writers of The Walking Dead haven't realised it yet. I hope it won't lead towards Maggie being written off the show in the near future. Norman Reedus put it best when he said certain characters need to be off-limits to keep people invested. Enough major characters were written off/died in terrible ways/before their time without adding Maggie.

      I don't have much faith in the show anymore. Walking Dead is a show that struggles between being a prestige drama and popcorn entertainment, but fail at both. If a "prestige drama" hasn't figured out an endgame by season 8/9, why should it still air?

      Whiskey Cavalier might become a generic, but stil enjoyable show with charismatic leads. I'm expecting them to get any awards, but there's good chance it could be fun to watch. Like Castle or Chuck or The Good Fight.

      As for Maggie, I'm fine if they kil her off. They could have made something these past two seasons, but no they didn't. I'm not personally a fan of the Dante/Alden-story in both mediums, but I can see that TV-show version will stink. I

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    • Theropod from the North wrote:

      Kates39 wrote:

      Theropod from the North wrote:

      Kates39 wrote:
      I wouldn't go over-the-top and say Maggie should have wanted to die and then decide to live for the baby. I don't think she was ever the kind of character who would decide enough was enough, when she has a baby and people depending on her. But I would have loved the writers to have fleshed out her grieving a bit. Then again, they messed up a lot of potential and plotlines in 7-8. They didn't know what to do with Maggie and never found find the balance between the many communities and the leaders of them. Maggie was kind of in the background for the main part. There was not enough time, when they should have made time. Cutting out unimportant communities (Oceanside) and eliminating The Scavengers earlier would have been the smart move to free time for important character development.
      I think we should seen her on the bottom, since her and Glenn were star-crossed lovers and all. The TV-Show anyway can never make her and Alden belivable. We didn't see the much of the griefe and the pain, so it wouldn't feel earned.

      Anyway, I'm very happy that Whiskey Cavalier was picked up, since Lauren will be the lead over there, meaning we will get a regular dosis of that woman! (:

      I completely agree. Maggie should have hit rock-bottom in the same way Rick had. It's a very under-developed plotline which will continue to impact the show in the future, in the same way Carl's death will impact The Whisperer arc and Lydia. The show's not very smart about it changes and keeps anymore.

      Maggie's grief had proper development in the comic book and the connection with Alden was believable because of it. But on the TV show, it will be out of the ordinary. I love the definition "it wouldn't feel earned". I will certainly be saying that a lot in the future!

      And yes! Lauren should have the recognition she deserves. It's a shame the writers of The Walking Dead haven't realised it yet. I hope it won't lead towards Maggie being written off the show in the near future. Norman Reedus put it best when he said certain characters need to be off-limits to keep people invested. Enough major characters were written off/died in terrible ways/before their time without adding Maggie.

      I don't have much faith in the show anymore. Walking Dead is a show that struggles between being a prestige drama and popcorn entertainment, but fail at both. If a "prestige drama" hasn't figured out an endgame by season 8/9, why should it still air?

      Whiskey Cavalier might become a generic, but stil enjoyable show with charismatic leads. I'm expecting them to get any awards, but there's good chance it could be fun to watch. Like Castle or Chuck or The Good Fight.

      As for Maggie, I'm fine if they kil her off. They could have made something these past two seasons, but no they didn't. I'm not personally a fan of the Dante/Alden-story in both mediums, but I can see that TV-show version will stink. I

      I don't have confidence in it either anymore. The death of Carl was the final nail in the coffin. I think it could manage to "kind of" be good again if it tried, but it will be forever overshadowed by the potential it threw away. It will never be what it could have. The writers have an uncanny way of manipulating viewers and then making the same old mistakes again. They never should have outed Darabont. He knew what he was talking about when he criticised AMC and the writers years ago. He knew this would happen.

      To be fair, the comic book hasn't reached any hints of end-game either. Kirkman says he has one in mind, but when it happens will be anyone's guess. TV shows can be successful enough to continue for years. The Walking Dead won't be one of them at this rate.

      I think the actors know it. Andy, Danai, Lauren appear to be looking elsewhere or talking about it. They will jump ship when they can! It's a shame.

      I'm not okay if they kill Maggie. I would rather Maggie walked off into the sunset in search of a better life, with her child. Fans often say "they should kill them" or "I'm okay with it", and then when it happens they realise it was a bad idea. Look at Carl. Enough with the lazy "let's kill them off then" concept.

      And I'm not a fan of Dante/Alden in both mediums either. But as per usual these days, the show will adapt it in a way that makes you hate it even more. Why can they not do one thing right these days?

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      I don't have confidence in it either anymore. The death of Carl was the final nail in the coffin. I think it could manage to "kind of" be good again if it tried, but it will be forever overshadowed by the potential it threw away. It will never be what it could have. The writers have an uncanny way of manipulating viewers and then making the same old mistakes again. They never should have outed Darabont. He knew what he was talking about when he criticised AMC and the writers years ago. He knew this would happen.

      To be fair, the comic book hasn't reached any hints of end-game either. Kirkman says he has one in mind, but when it happens will be anyone's guess. TV shows can be successful enough to continue for years. The Walking Dead won't be one of them at this rate.

      I think the actors know it. Andy, Danai, Lauren appear to be looking elsewhere or talking about it. They will jump ship when they can! It's a shame. Perhaps The Walking Dead from this point in the show will be adapted better in film version one day in the future, and do right by this arc.

      I'm not okay if they kill Maggie. I would rather Maggie walked off into the sunset in search of a better life, with her child. Fans often say "they should kill them" or "I'm okay with it", and then when it happens they realise it was a bad idea. Look at Carl. Enough with the lazy "let's kill them off then" concept.

      And I'm not a fan of Dante/Alden in both mediums either. But as per usual these days, the show will adapt it in a way that makes you hate it even more. Why can they not do one thing right these days?

      I didn't give a flying f**k about Carl really, so it didn't really impact with me. Danai starred in two big Marvel movies and got even nominated for a saturn award for black panther, so yeah, she has good chance, plus she's an Tony-award winning playwright.

      Lauren has also a big movie role coming up, Mile 22, directed by Peter Berg and starring Mark Wahlberg. Good chance it might give her some more box office mojo and maybe even acclaim, as she plays an "cold CIA-oprative, who's also a mother"(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZepU2ARP58).

      The show went downhill since Terminus in my opinion. The moment they were together in that train-cart, all together was epic, and then they just blew past it and split up again!

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      I don't have confidence in it either anymore. The death of Carl was the final nail in the coffin. I think it could manage to "kind of" be good again if it tried, but it will be forever overshadowed by the potential it threw away. It will never be what it could have. The writers have an uncanny way of manipulating viewers and then making the same old mistakes again. They never should have outed Darabont. He knew what he was talking about when he criticised AMC and the writers years ago. He knew this would happen.

      To be fair, the comic book hasn't reached any hints of end-game either. Kirkman says he has one in mind, but when it happens will be anyone's guess. TV shows can be successful enough to continue for years. The Walking Dead won't be one of them at this rate.

      I think the actors know it. Andy, Danai, Lauren appear to be looking elsewhere or talking about it. They will jump ship when they can! It's a shame. Perhaps The Walking Dead from this point in the show will be adapted better in film version one day in the future, and do right by this arc.

      I'm not okay if they kill Maggie. I would rather Maggie walked off into the sunset in search of a better life, with her child. Fans often say "they should kill them" or "I'm okay with it", and then when it happens they realise it was a bad idea. Look at Carl. Enough with the lazy "let's kill them off then" concept.

      And I'm not a fan of Dante/Alden in both mediums either. But as per usual these days, the show will adapt it in a way that makes you hate it even more. Why can they not do one thing right these days?

      I didn't give a flying f**k about Carl really, so it didn't really impact with me. Danai starred in two big Marvel movies and got even nominated for a saturn award for black panther, so yeah, she has good chance, plus she's an Tony-award winning playwright.

      Lauren has also a big movie role coming up, Mile 22, directed by Peter Berg and starring Mark Wahlberg. Good chance it might give her some more box office mojo and maybe even acclaim, as she plays an "cold CIA-oprative, who's also a mother"(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZepU2ARP58).

      The show went downhill since Terminus in my opinion. The moment they were together in that train-cart, all together was epic, and then they just blew past it and split up again!

      It's fair if you didn't care about Carl. You are very entitled to your opinion. But his comic book storyline in The Whisperer arc was well worth doing, far better than the lazy reason for killing him off in a way that puts writing to shame to be frank. I loathe that kind of writing, but then that's the writer part of me!

      Yeah, I will be surprised if Danai makes it through The Whisperer arc. She's very popular right now. I think Michonne will die in the same way Andrea (the comic book character arc she took over) died. It will be the way out. Then again, it will be very, very unpopular with fans. She's pretty much the favourite character on the show and important for the Commonwealth arc.

      I agree. Terminus was when Gimple began diggin his claws into the show. Then followed the Glenn/Nicholas/who died saga which was a disaster. Then The Saviors turned up and it went insane.

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      It's fair if you didn't care about Carl. You are very entitled to your opinion. But his comic book storyline in The Whisperer arc was well worth doing, far better than the lazy reason for killing him off in a way that puts writing to shame to be frank. I loathe that kind of writing, but then that's the writer part of me!

      Yeah, I will be surprised if Danai makes it through The Whisperer arc. She's very popular right now. I think Michonne will die in the same way Andrea (the comic book character arc she took over) died. It will be the way out. Then again, it will be very, very unpopular with fans. She's pretty much the favourite character on the show and important for the Commonwealth arc.

      I agree. Terminus was when Gimple began diggin his claws into the show. Then followed the Glenn/Nicholas/who died saga which was a disaster. Then The Saviors turned up and it went insane.

      Accoring to this wiki, Comic Carl is f-ing psycho and an interesting character! On a TV-show that difficult to pull off with, for example even Arya Stark on Game of Thrones sometimes slips up badly and that show is miles ahead of TWD in pretty much anything.

      Michonne is TV-Andrea. The Rick-girlfriend part at least. Sasha used to be the sniper part. 

      All Out War also just didn't seem very cinematic. After seeing the massive battle of GoT and the beautifully-scored shootouts of Westworld, TWD just seemed... lame. And I've seen the pictures of the prison assault and all out war from the comics on this wiki and god how beautiful those are! And then the TV show looks so quickly put together! 

      I just wish AMC would end it. I'll still to stick around for Maggie though. I want to see her and her son, some beautiful moments, looking at photo of Glenn... and I'm fine with her getting the Sherry-arc. TV-Sherry isn't a **** and the actress, suprisingly, doing her own show as well.

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    • I strongly believe that Maggie was written fine and we didn't need Maggie to grieve for a long time cause it'd just become too boring and repetitive. I'm fine believing that Maggie grieved off camera. Also we didn't need Maggie to try and commit suicide on the show. The only reason it happened in the comic was to have a shocking cliffhanger ending for the issue. At the time when the suicide story could have been adapted Maggie was strong enough were the suicide story would have been unnecessary. I really hope Lauren has a good career but I hope they find a way of keeping her in the show while she films whiskey cavalier. If I'm being honest though I doubt her new show will make it.

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      I strongly believe that Maggie was written fine and we didn't need Maggie to grieve for a long time cause it'd just become too boring and repetitive. I'm fine believing that Maggie grieved off camera. Also we didn't need Maggie to try and commit suicide on the show. The only reason it happened in the comic was to have a shocking cliffhanger ending for the issue. At the time when the suicide story could have been adapted Maggie was strong enough were the suicide story would have been unnecessary. I really hope Lauren has a good career but I hope they find a way of keeping her in the show while she films whiskey cavalier. If I'm being honest though I doubt her new show will make it.

      The whole Alden-thing would feel unearned, if we didn't get proper closuer on Glenn. And Lauren also has a big movie coming out, so if Whiskey Cavalier fails, she might move on to that world. 

      Plus it would awesome if shere were cast for example in Westworld S3 or another HBO show ;)

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      I strongly believe that Maggie was written fine and we didn't need Maggie to grieve for a long time cause it'd just become too boring and repetitive. I'm fine believing that Maggie grieved off camera. Also we didn't need Maggie to try and commit suicide on the show. The only reason it happened in the comic was to have a shocking cliffhanger ending for the issue. At the time when the suicide story could have been adapted Maggie was strong enough were the suicide story would have been unnecessary. I really hope Lauren has a good career but I hope they find a way of keeping her in the show while she films whiskey cavalier. If I'm being honest though I doubt her new show will make it.

      Whiskey Cavalier sounds generic, but apparently is quite big, at least for ABC-standards. The pilot was shot in LA, Prague and Paris. If it were a standard crime show, I get LA, but why would they film in two major and expensive Europena cities?

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      JCB95 wrote:
      I strongly believe that Maggie was written fine and we didn't need Maggie to grieve for a long time cause it'd just become too boring and repetitive. I'm fine believing that Maggie grieved off camera. Also we didn't need Maggie to try and commit suicide on the show. The only reason it happened in the comic was to have a shocking cliffhanger ending for the issue. At the time when the suicide story could have been adapted Maggie was strong enough were the suicide story would have been unnecessary. I really hope Lauren has a good career but I hope they find a way of keeping her in the show while she films whiskey cavalier. If I'm being honest though I doubt her new show will make it.

      Whiskey Cavalier sounds generic, but apparently is quite big, at least for ABC-standards. The pilot was shot in LA, Prague and Paris. If it were a standard crime show, I get LA, but why would they film in two major and expensive Europena cities?

      We don't need closure she'll never truly move on from Glenn but it's realistic that eventually she may find someone else not as a replacement for Glenn but someone to keep her company. It isn't uncommon for widows to find love after their partner died they just had a story like that on the CBS show code black.

      Just by the name whiskey cavalier the show sounds bad, but I will probably check it out. They might have filmed there but you don't know how long or how expensive the set could have been. It could have been a really cheap set or they could have filmed the pilot there blown the budget and the rest of the season could be trash.

      I'm really not sure how I feel about Lauren right now. When she took the role she should have known how important she would be to the show. Going into the next arc killing her off would be like killing Rick. If she just took this role to bust her career and now she wants to bail I will never support Lauren again cause she turned her back on the walking dead fans. Honestly right now I'd prefer she go into film cause that would give her a bit of a more flexible film schedule.

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    • We don't need closure she'll never truly move on from Glenn but it's realistic that eventually she may find someone else not as a replacement for Glenn but someone to keep her company. It isn't uncommon for widows to find love after their partner died they just had a story like that on the CBS show code black.

      Just by the name whiskey cavalier the show sounds bad, but I will probably check it out. They might have filmed there but you don't know how long or how expensive the set could have been. It could have been a really cheap set or they could have filmed the pilot there blown the budget and the rest of the season could be trash.

      I'm really not sure how I feel about Lauren right now. When she took the role she should have known how important she would be to the show. Going into the next arc killing her off would be like killing Rick. If she just took this role to bust her career and now she wants to bail I will never support Lauren again cause she turned her back on the walking dead fans. Honestly right now I'd prefer she go into film cause that would give her a bit of a more flexible film schedule.

      I think it was clear very soon Danai and Lauren would be the ones that start to get in high demand because of the show: Danai is an-award winning playwright and stage actress, while Lauren is the super-hot/brunete/british woman of the cast. The fact it took this long is acutally suprising!

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    • Theropod from the North wrote:
      We don't need closure she'll never truly move on from Glenn but it's realistic that eventually she may find someone else not as a replacement for Glenn but someone to keep her company. It isn't uncommon for widows to find love after their partner died they just had a story like that on the CBS show code black.

      Just by the name whiskey cavalier the show sounds bad, but I will probably check it out. They might have filmed there but you don't know how long or how expensive the set could have been. It could have been a really cheap set or they could have filmed the pilot there blown the budget and the rest of the season could be trash.

      I'm really not sure how I feel about Lauren right now. When she took the role she should have known how important she would be to the show. Going into the next arc killing her off would be like killing Rick. If she just took this role to bust her career and now she wants to bail I will never support Lauren again cause she turned her back on the walking dead fans. Honestly right now I'd prefer she go into film cause that would give her a bit of a more flexible film schedule.

      We still should have seen some existental pain with Maggie. Show us the pain of the fact the she's going to wake up every morning from now on without the love of her life etc. They had 32 episodes and we never felt the pain of what was lost. And Maggie probably had only 2 to 3 hours of screen time during those 32 episodes, while she really should have become the female lead of the show and we should have some brilliant character-progression.

      I personally wish we would have gott ensome dark side of her, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QeZQ6cmRMU

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    • Theropod from the North wrote:

      Theropod from the North wrote:
      We don't need closure she'll never truly move on from Glenn but it's realistic that eventually she may find someone else not as a replacement for Glenn but someone to keep her company. It isn't uncommon for widows to find love after their partner died they just had a story like that on the CBS show code black.

      Just by the name whiskey cavalier the show sounds bad, but I will probably check it out. They might have filmed there but you don't know how long or how expensive the set could have been. It could have been a really cheap set or they could have filmed the pilot there blown the budget and the rest of the season could be trash.

      I'm really not sure how I feel about Lauren right now. When she took the role she should have known how important she would be to the show. Going into the next arc killing her off would be like killing Rick. If she just took this role to bust her career and now she wants to bail I will never support Lauren again cause she turned her back on the walking dead fans. Honestly right now I'd prefer she go into film cause that would give her a bit of a more flexible film schedule.

      We still should have seen some existental pain with Maggie. Show us the pain of the fact the she's going to wake up every morning from now on without the love of her life etc. They had 32 episodes and we never felt the pain of what was lost. And Maggie probably had only 2 to 3 hours of screen time during those 32 episodes, while she really should have become the female lead of the show and we should have some brilliant character-progression.

      I personally wish we would have gott ensome dark side of her, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QeZQ6cmRMU

      Again I strongly disagree we shouldn't have gotten a dark side of Maggie. TV Maggie is stronger than Comic Maggie, suicide just wouldn't fit her character. We don't need scenes of her in pain due to losing Glenn. We the audience already know she's grieving and in pain the writers don't need to spoon feed it to us.

      I do agree she should have be the female lead but because of Daryl she probably wouldn't be a lead. Again I will still say Danai and Lauren knew what they were getting into and shouldn't leave now and turn their backs on us the devoted fans. If it wasn't for us they wouldn't have the careers they have today. Their first priority should be to the Walking Dead and us the fans. I don't have a problem with them taking supporting roles in shows and movies but whatever they do it should still allow them to be on TWD first.

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    • JCB95 wrote:

      Again I strongly disagree we shouldn't have gotten a dark side of Maggie. TV Maggie is stronger than Comic Maggie, suicide just wouldn't fit her character. We don't need scenes of her in pain due to losing Glenn. We the audience already know she's grieving and in pain the writers don't need to spoon feed it to us.

      I do agree she should have be the female lead but because of Daryl she probably wouldn't be a lead. Again I will still say Danai and Lauren knew what they were getting into and shouldn't leave now and turn their backs on us the devoted fans. If it wasn't for us they wouldn't have the careers they have today. Their first priority should be to the Walking Dead and us the fans. I don't have a problem with them taking supporting roles in shows and movies but whatever they do it should still allow them to be on TWD first.

      If the Walking Dead would still be a quality show I agree. Ad we should have definetly seen the mourning progress and the pain, because it would be a big f you to the past 5 season they had together. Alot of the fans have already turned on the show and the show isn't seen very highly by critics and awards. The performance Lauren gave during Glenn's death was way better than the show ever deserved. And instead of making that a key-thing, they had boyish Farmgirl about 5 episodes later. This could have been great-character-study about suffering and existental pain.

      Actors who stay in for the fans often have a harder time later: look at the cast of Star Trek. None of them is acting anymore, only doing conventions. If she can avoid this fate, she should. In the end it was her hard work as an actress that landed her the part, we fans only helped. As a fan I would love to see Lauren go after bigger things like Westworld, Mr. Robot and This is US, I want to see collabroate with big-name actors and directors on movies that make big money or get nominated for Oscars. I'd take that over another season of 16 of bad dialogue.

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    • JCB95 wrote:

      Theropod from the North wrote:

      Theropod from the North wrote:
      We don't need closure she'll never truly move on from Glenn but it's realistic that eventually she may find someone else not as a replacement for Glenn but someone to keep her company. It isn't uncommon for widows to find love after their partner died they just had a story like that on the CBS show code black.

      Just by the name whiskey cavalier the show sounds bad, but I will probably check it out. They might have filmed there but you don't know how long or how expensive the set could have been. It could have been a really cheap set or they could have filmed the pilot there blown the budget and the rest of the season could be trash.

      I'm really not sure how I feel about Lauren right now. When she took the role she should have known how important she would be to the show. Going into the next arc killing her off would be like killing Rick. If she just took this role to bust her career and now she wants to bail I will never support Lauren again cause she turned her back on the walking dead fans. Honestly right now I'd prefer she go into film cause that would give her a bit of a more flexible film schedule.

      We still should have seen some existental pain with Maggie. Show us the pain of the fact the she's going to wake up every morning from now on without the love of her life etc. They had 32 episodes and we never felt the pain of what was lost. And Maggie probably had only 2 to 3 hours of screen time during those 32 episodes, while she really should have become the female lead of the show and we should have some brilliant character-progression.

      I personally wish we would have gott ensome dark side of her, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QeZQ6cmRMU

      Again I strongly disagree we shouldn't have gotten a dark side of Maggie. TV Maggie is stronger than Comic Maggie, suicide just wouldn't fit her character. We don't need scenes of her in pain due to losing Glenn. We the audience already know she's grieving and in pain the writers don't need to spoon feed it to us.

      I do agree she should have be the female lead but because of Daryl she probably wouldn't be a lead. Again I will still say Danai and Lauren knew what they were getting into and shouldn't leave now and turn their backs on us the devoted fans. If it wasn't for us they wouldn't have the careers they have today. Their first priority should be to the Walking Dead and us the fans. I don't have a problem with them taking supporting roles in shows and movies but whatever they do it should still allow them to be on TWD first.

      I agree Maggie shouldn't go completely dark, and they shouldn't have her grieving take up a lot of time because the show was dire enough without Maggie crying every five seconds. But I think they should have explored her grief a bit better and bring a better sense of closure and focus on the future of their child. People were confused about whether Maggie was even pregnant anymore, because it was never brought up. Where's the character development?

      Maggie's role was far too reduced these previous two years. And there's no denying the show's on a bit of a downward slope. It needs to save face beginning this October.

      It's a job for the actors, not a show they need to be loyal towards if they are not being utilised properly. AMC need to negotiate better and realise what it needs to keep going, instead of playing a game of greed with the wages and time of it's actors. Lauren nearly jumped ship because it's her career on the line, and even actors were demanding AMC pay her what she wants.

      I mean, the show wasn't loyal to Chandler was it? "Hey Chandler, set down your roots in Atlanta. Set up your education for home study. Have you brought a house yet? You have? Great! Now your sacked. We don't want Carl anymore. Oh btw, Happy Birthday".

      Danai and Lauren never agreed to be part of a show with terrible writing and therefore a lack of care for them and their job (their declining job right now), when their characters are lazily shoved to the side for no good reason.

      If they think their careers are better off elsewhere, they have no obligation to continue to be part of a show that does not value them, even if the fans do. Their first priority is the progression of their career, not to be trapped in a job out of loyalty.

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    • Kates39 wrote:

      JCB95 wrote:

      Theropod from the North wrote:

      Theropod from the North wrote:
      We don't need closure she'll never truly move on from Glenn but it's realistic that eventually she may find someone else not as a replacement for Glenn but someone to keep her company. It isn't uncommon for widows to find love after their partner died they just had a story like that on the CBS show code black.

      Just by the name whiskey cavalier the show sounds bad, but I will probably check it out. They might have filmed there but you don't know how long or how expensive the set could have been. It could have been a really cheap set or they could have filmed the pilot there blown the budget and the rest of the season could be trash.

      I'm really not sure how I feel about Lauren right now. When she took the role she should have known how important she would be to the show. Going into the next arc killing her off would be like killing Rick. If she just took this role to bust her career and now she wants to bail I will never support Lauren again cause she turned her back on the walking dead fans. Honestly right now I'd prefer she go into film cause that would give her a bit of a more flexible film schedule.

      We still should have seen some existental pain with Maggie. Show us the pain of the fact the she's going to wake up every morning from now on without the love of her life etc. They had 32 episodes and we never felt the pain of what was lost. And Maggie probably had only 2 to 3 hours of screen time during those 32 episodes, while she really should have become the female lead of the show and we should have some brilliant character-progression.

      I personally wish we would have gott ensome dark side of her, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QeZQ6cmRMU

      Again I strongly disagree we shouldn't have gotten a dark side of Maggie. TV Maggie is stronger than Comic Maggie, suicide just wouldn't fit her character. We don't need scenes of her in pain due to losing Glenn. We the audience already know she's grieving and in pain the writers don't need to spoon feed it to us.

      I do agree she should have be the female lead but because of Daryl she probably wouldn't be a lead. Again I will still say Danai and Lauren knew what they were getting into and shouldn't leave now and turn their backs on us the devoted fans. If it wasn't for us they wouldn't have the careers they have today. Their first priority should be to the Walking Dead and us the fans. I don't have a problem with them taking supporting roles in shows and movies but whatever they do it should still allow them to be on TWD first.

      I agree Maggie shouldn't go completely dark, and they shouldn't have her grieving take up a lot of time because the show was dire enough without Maggie crying every five seconds. But I think they should have explored her grief a bit better and bring a better sense of closure and focus on the future of their child. People were confused about whether Maggie was even pregnant anymore, because it was never brought up. Where's the character development?

      Maggie's role was far too reduced these previous two years. And there's no denying the show's on a bit of a downward slope. It needs to save face beginning this October.

      It's a job for the actors, not a show they need to be loyal towards if they are not being utilised properly. AMC need to negotiate better and realise what it needs to keep going, instead of playing a game of greed with the wages and time of it's actors. Lauren nearly jumped ship because it's her career on the line, and even actors were demanding AMC pay her what she wants.

      I mean, the show wasn't loyal to Chandler was it? "Hey Chandler, set down your roots in Atlanta. Set up your education for home study. Have you brought a house yet? You have? Great! Now your sacked. We don't want Carl anymore. Oh btw, Happy Birthday".

      Danai and Lauren never agreed to be part of a show with terrible writing and therefore a lack of care for them and their job (their declining job right now), when their characters are lazily shoved to the side for no good reason.

      If they think their careers are better off elsewhere, they have no obligation to continue to be part of a show that does not value them, even if the fans do. Their first priority is the progression of their career, not to be trapped in a job out of loyalty.

      Thumbs up!

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    • Lauren's recent and future schedule:

      November 2017: Walking Dead season 8 wraps

      November 2017- February 2018: Mile 22 shoots

      March 2018- April 2018: Whiskey Cavalier Pilot

      May 2018- July 2018: Walking dead season 9 

      July 2018: Back to Whiskey Cavalier

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